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So CCP doesn't know how much null systems are worth. You're literally accusing CCP of being unable to do math.

Time and time again on these forums and others we've recounted how bad most anomalies are and how worthless most null systems are. CCP gave it a pass when they buff the "EHP/isk ratio of anoms, but the only thing it did was made one lower end class of anomalies (Forsaken Rally Points) somewhat more viable. This is because they added more cruisers and battleships but didn't address the real problems (where the npcs spawn in the site, the fact that some sites have stupid triggers thus creating monster incoming dps situations that aren't worth the time to do because you entire ship is nothing but tank, etc etc).

That was 2011 the last time they did any work with null sec anomalies.. And the EHP/Isk 'buff that wasn't a buff' was in reaction to this change that created the Renters Desert sov null is today. If you think that no one (including CCP) knows how bad things are you're crazy. They do know, the ESS was a sort of back hand 'buff' of lower end anomalies (with loyalty points).

Look at any map of null. Count the rental alliances. People don't rent out things it would be more profitable for them to use themselves.



Null anomalies generate something like 70% of the isk injected into the game. That seems like a lot and it is, but that's because you have people full time afking anomalies and people spread out so that they can get apiece of the 'good' anomalies.

The issue is mo0re complicated than 'null doesn't make enough space cash. You can (and I do) make a good space-living farming anoms and doing escalations from them. The problem is that you can make the same amounts easily in high sec, under certain conditions you can make MORE in high sec as an individual pilot than you can in null (mission farm setups where you use standings to get good missions form several agents and farm them for 7 days, or high sec shiny incursion fleets). You can make WAY more in low sec and wormholes too.

There was a time when you couldn't do better than to stumble upon a DED 10/10 in null. Hell, BELT RATTING was enough income to keep you in ships for pvp. Nowadays real pro PVE players avoid Sov Null like the plague . Sov null isk making isn't impossible, it's just a poor choice compared to, say, flying a stealth bomber in faction warfare and spamming missions, (they don't make 600 mil per hour anymore, but 200-300 mil per hour flying a stealth bomber is obviously superior to the 90-100 mil per hour a pirate battleship could generate in null...).

As long as player can make the same or better isk elsewhere, there is no need for people to 'settle' in null. Renters exist all over null because renters have pretty low standards when it comes to isk making (for a newer corp, renting makes sense because sov null ratting and mining does have a pretty low barrier of entry compared to other things like high sec incursions).

No, not like that at all, or to put it a different way, exactly like that. Because if I only knock a chunk off the shields of a contemporary structure but fail to actually reinforce it, it replenishes itself on it's own and my work is undone.





They are. They killed the guy doing it before he could finish.

Why should the attacker be allowed to have his influence linger after he's already dead?

However, the difference is, someone took the effort, to combine that information, INTO ONE PLACE.

This may very well be true, but can someone PLEASE provide accurate independent and most importantly public data to show exactly how good or bad this is.

For wormhole space Corbexx, our CSM spent days running sites in all classes of WH space to give accurate data that enabled CCP to rebalance lower class holes.

If you do the same, you hopefully will benefit from similar results.

Good active space is good for EVERYONE. But someone has to step up and start the work.
And EVE being EVE, without that hard data, everyone will assume you are rolling naked in isk and just wanting more. And it really seems like that is not the case.

Why should these modules be usable on Interceptors?

Simple, I am after a system maybe two, with all the resources around in all of the major alliances I may need to mask my real target, so having the ability to reinforce systems in different constellations of the region will enable me to reduce the enemy force that can come and stop my main attack. The interceptor will allow me to actually get into systems. If your people are not defending those systems or do not have a POS there then it's your issue and to cover your weaknesses by making people use a ship that is so easy to catch in gate camps or catch with bubbles enables you to be lazy and not protect the systems.

If you want to own the system you need to defend it, so yes to being able to use these modules on interceptors!

Clearly then, you have recently recieved large buffs to null income?

No?

Well, they either clearly do not, and require more data before implementing changes.

Or they have decided the balance is right.


I suspect that they require more data, we may be waiting a while then.

Umm, itll take more than just data to implement the null income changes. Especially when its needs to be balanced with hisec, and provide meaningful space content. There are a million factors to be considered and it may have to be coupled with an overall industry revamp. It will take time to do it right.

That, and the obscene income from goo.