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Shhh...

Don't ruin his narrative.

What I am concerned is that with other things happening around the grid, a gang of inties with the module running all the time orbiting 250 km will be hard for the defenders to actually do something about them. Best case, it would be annoying. There are a lot of factors involved and I think that it is extremely disadvantageous for the defenders.

But what do I know about SOV. And I do not speak for my corporation, just inputting my opinion for ccp to consider.

Also Waffles.

There's a lot here.. and I'm not sure how well this change will work out, but it's worth a try.

Now there are some things I'd like to suggest.

First is to bring activity into the picture. And I'd like to tie it in to the Primetime thing.
I both like and dislike the primetime feature. It makes sure that you can defend your sov when you are strongest, but you've just made it so having multi-tz alliances isn't gonna be much fun for at least half of them.

So, here's my idea. You have your 4hr Window. This window will apply to your MOST ACTIVE system. In terms of PvE. In terms of Mining. Industry. No matter what happens that system is only open in that timeframe.
Now you have your LEAST active system. That system has a *chance* of being vulnerable +/- 12hrs on either end. Lets say the chance is 25%?
Now the rest of the systems go on the bell curve, and their activity affects what the chance of it hitting is, and their 'rank' affects the chance of it being vulnerable in that extra time. So your middle or the range system could end up being +/-3hrs with a 12% chance of it being vulnerable in those additional 6 (3+3)hrs.

This means your core systems are the safest systems. They will virtually always be during your prime time. But those forgotten systems. Those systems you are rarely in, have a much greater chance of hitting outside your prime time, Or in turn, more squarely in the prime time of another Alliance.


Two.
Incursions. Have them attack SOV. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. They should go after SOV, POS's, etc. Unlike the Empires where the Sansha know they have no chance to Hold the ground, they should try in Null. If ignored when when the Incursion Withdraws, there should be No POS's left, and sov and stations should be transferred to the Sansha, along with local rats and anoms.. You'd need to retake it same way as any other alliance.


Three.
Give Outposts, iHubs, etc POS Guns. So they can blap that little frig that is going to turn off your services just for lol's. It's kinda silly that a large POS can have defaces but an Outpost can't?




Anyway.. just my ideas.
I honestly have no idea how this is going to play out.,. I can see it turning into another FW Farce of everyone flying frigs cause why not.. Or I can see this driving some real conflict.. I donno. It's a tossup.

i think we should go back to having to smash 20-100 pos's in an small area to take sov. i enjoyed the hours and hours of mind numbing structure bashing.

remember, it can always be worse. a lot of criticism on this thread, but not a lot of solutions offered. i think this change will actually be good. i know the community will find a way to twist it in a way the devs did not foresee or intend, but anything that makes smaller fights happen more often, bigger fights happen less, removes a lot of structure bashing, helps smaller groups get out to null without being overwhelmed, and makes fielding 2 carriers in a fight not turn into fielding 500 carriers in a fight, are all good things. the biggest things to remember are that there is no change that can't be undone and get on the test server to check these things out. your opinion actually matters there and you have the power to give good ideas on there.

N+1 is no worse under the changes than it is now. N+1 will always be possible, and in a sense I agree with it - the better organised and committed alliance should always win.

Dominion moved sov warfare substantially in favour of the defender. This is moving it back towards the attacker, which is sorely needed in order to free up space. It'll seem unfair and unbalanced, simply because of what we're used to currently. Remember that all it it takes to stop a sov attack is one Entosis link from one defending alliance member. With 250Km range, that's actually pretty damn easy.

For a well defended and occupied system you will have 40 mins to stop an attack. And to stop an attack all you need is ... Effectively any vulnerable period is reduced by 40 mins. You only have to intermittently stop the attack during a 40 min cycle and it resets.

The Prime Time zone sucks - it forces Alliances to be single TZ, and reduces vulnerability to 4 hours out of 24. It should change it so that your sov structures are vulnerable for three periods of between 3 and 6 hours, for a 12 hour total in any 24 hour period.

The capture mechanic of multiple command nodes in multiple systems in the constellation is awesome.

You should only be able to put up a POS if you have a TCU in system. That should be incentive to hold Sov - currently there appears to be none.

Rental empires are dead. It was bound to happen, and CCP have been flagging it for a while. RIP. Time to move on.

Supers are no longer required for sov bashing. This sucks for us, but is good for the game as a whole. Let's see what they come up with for supers in future before crying too much.

Shoot me. I like the changes.

I love the bulk of these changes, especially the command node mechanic and the constellation focus.

As an autz player however I share the concerns of others regarding the autz being excluded from sov warfare to an even greater extent than under dominion sov.

Under dominion sov, autz could not participate in the structure fights timed for EU/us prime. However we could participate in the reinforcement of structures to generate those timers. Under this system we can't even do that.

Could you please consider tweaks to these mechanics to allow us to participate on the fringes as we did before?

One idea I have quickly thought of is requiring an alliance to pick two 'primetimes'. The four hour prime already included and then a secondary time of perhaps one to two hours. This secondary time couldn't be with, say, five hours of the prime time. A ustz alliance would therefore be forced to chose a secondary time in eutz or autz. Some ustz alliances with no eu tz could be forced to chose autz. The sov laser could be made to cycle longer in the secondary period as well.

This may be a bad idea but I think a number of players have recognized that the prime time mechanic is very exclusive as currently expressed. Could you please make it more flexible?

I accept that autz may gain additional value in devaluing sov indices as autz can be a popular time to rat for some alliances.

Good work so far!

The biggest problem these changes fail to address is the actual need for owning sovereignty, as others have stated. With lower income rates than most other areas in the game (see https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5547866#post5547866), the only reason to own sov in the current state of the game is A) to build supercaps and B) to plant your flag in space for E-PEEN factor. Content creation is stagnant (which these changes do somewhat address), but without incentive no one in this game will want to create said content.

Aside from a needed buff to nullsec and reasons to live in it, there must also be less of a reason to own so much space. For nullsec players, the #1 staple source of income and incentive to live in null is nullsec anomalies. Missions, incursions, tower reactions, etc can all be done elsewhere, but the level of anomalies present in null can be found nowhere else.

The larger your sov nullsec alliance, the more members you have wanting this level of income. So the more members you have, the more anomalies you need to keep everyone happy and staying in your alliance. Anomalies are capped at a certain amount per system, so you can only have so many members utilizing a single system. This is the sole reason why major power blocs own entire region(s). An alliance like Goonswarm Federation can and would gladly live in 10-20 systems if the system simply allowed for it. A larger population density in individual systems would allow for greater content, less mass ownership of systems by powerblocs, and therefore greater opportunity for smaller groups to take sovereignty without being contested by said powerblocs.

How to do so? The answer has been thrown at you for months now, by anyone from random pubbies like myself to well known bloggers. Allowing mission agents in nullsec stations allows for infinite population density in a single small area. Agents implemented in the form of rented teams forces the top of the alliance to put money into providing for the members, something that must happen in more diverse ways than just SRP. But nontheless, mission agents in nullsec would solve the population density problem and allow for alliances to live in much smaller areas, with the same numbers.

If implemented, alliances would naturally find themselves drawn to central hubs, where standing fleets and safety in numbers provide a greater benefit than simply spreading out to the far corners of the region. As alliances coalesce, some constellations will find their occupancy indices tick down, and suddenly a nearby NPC null or Lowsec dwelling alliance may find themselves being able to contest these systems and, after enough harassment, able to take them. In the current eve, were most systems in CFC space are being used, the taking of such systems simply wouldn't be allowed to happen.

an interceptor could probably only target out to maybe 150km with mwd, sebos, and maybe even signal amps and rigs just maxing it out on distance. but a couple things that would need to be known are what happens when the ship gets out of range or loses lock? what if it mwds or gets knocked 260km? and what happens when they are jammed? could a hostile target, start the hack, then when defenders warp ongrid get jammed by an ally and then be able to warp off? likely the successful activation of the module will start a timer to inhibit warp. if this is the case then being in an interceptor and unable to warp is not so good. just need a faster ship to run him down. i hope it doesn't completely inhibit movement. if so, then something like a blackbird or a scorpion would be a good choice because it will probably be like a cyno and mids will still work.

if the module is made to fit larger ships mostly then you know what else this means.......new ships with bonuses to taking sov. maybe a set of heavy destroyers that can get a bonus to capture.

Corner cases are a *****.

Show me the inty fit that locks at 250. Show me the inty fit that can lock at 250 and tank a sniper Muninn. Show me the inty fit that can lock at 250 and outrun a speed fit PVP inty/pirate frig.