EVE General Discussion

I dont necessarily need WiS, but it would be cool to have some station activities, like gambling and small things like that.

A lot of people never undock as it is. I bet half the people in Jita have never left the station. Eve is not a game about spaceships according to CCP. It's an economic simulator that features ships prominently. There are a lot of reasons to not want WIS, but yours are just born from ignorance and small minded thinking. Take a deep breath, turn on your brain, and try again. Or just keep being the sheeple cheerleader that you are posting like. Whatever.

Just because my opinions don't fall in line with yours doesn't mean I'm the Sheeple Cheerleader, My opinions are from me, and not influenced by anyone else. Sorry to disappoint you in that regard, I am a functioning person with full capabilities.

People are not Sheeple just because they agree with each other. If you think that, you are idiot.

And ignorance? In what? A PvP based Sandbox? What does it a, PvP Sandbox, need when it comes to WiS? Like really, what does Minigames which is majority of thing requested for WiS belong in it?

Your Arrogance is laughable.

Also posting with an alt does nothing but ruin your own reputation for giving a considerable post. Most would just figure you for a troll. Which obviously you probably are.

Also please, EvE is a competitive PvP game. The Free-Market is merely a awesome thing that was apart of the game as a whole. If it was just a Economic Sim. Spaceships wouldn't be needed. It could be MLP Online and still be a Economic sim

To Dersen.


If People can come up with something that makes Avatar based gameplay in station meaningfull to the EVE sandbox, I would support it. But the only thing I see people asking for, either ways to make isk while staying docked. Or silly "Second-Life" crap. Something that I personally would not want in EVE.

If something could be suggested to change WiS into something better then a "Walk around and be social" idea, I would be for it. Until then.

O7 to it

Portraits and WIS are not the same. Portraits are under active development and CCP is "happy" with the side income the accessories provide. WIS development was halted, CCP has no compelling ideas that would justify resources to be assigned, and the company has no plans to develop it.

Don't mix the two. They are very different.

I can tell things got weird in this game in the past.

I like the captain's quarters it's pretty cool, but yeah it would be nice if you could walk around with everyone else inside of just the captain's quarters.

My PC wouldn't break a sweat.


Isn't CCP based in Iceland? Must be hard to get talent there in large numbers or to get people to move there. Blizzard in located in Cali for a reason yknow.

I tried Second Life in the months leading upto Incarna to check their player made economy (the Linden side looked interesting). Funnily enough the only female characters I spoke to told me off because I'd rez'd the shoes wrong and my heels were sticking out. Then they went on a massive lecture on how to fix this. Luckily I'd bought a sword by then (and a waggle sword emote) before they invited me to an orgy. Only had to chase them about for a bit until they ran off. They still mailed me later to join a cyber orgy. Me and my mum watched and howled in the most undignified way.

One odd thing is CCP has not removed what little we have of WiS. We know they are willing to remove parts of the game that see little use. A recent example is industry teams.

So why do we still have any form of Incarna, unless it is, at some level, doing something for the game? Every patch CCP has to do regression tests on CQ, just to make sure something did not get broken. That's extra work they could avoid if they just dropped the entire thing. It must be relevant in some way. If it is doing something for the game, would completing the feature do more for the game?

Thing is, CCP would have to lease an engine that actually allowed more then one character on the screen without melting your graphics card. Meaning scrapping what they've done to date and starting over.

While I'm fine with that since I'm not going anywhere in the near future and I still have secret dreams of teabagging some fool in a player run bar, most FISers would have a total meltdown over it. Ships or nothing, right guys? Though reading the front page today (or any day, for that matter) all I'm seeing is whining over ships. So I guess since y'all are going to cry anyway, CCP might just as well finish what they started and give us a fully interactive Science Fiction simulator.

Mr Epeen

Well, I would be shocked if we still had the CQ next year. Once CCP finishes the new NPE, the CQ will be just a useless piece of legacy code.

CCP says "no to avatars". And tha'ts what they've been doing. Some time ago, they started spawning new players randomly at the CQ an the hangar, to check -literally- whether the CQ had an effect on player retention. Back then I figured they were considering to remove the CQ, and now that the NPE starts again in space, and it's been improved with the opportunities system, the CQ has already run its course.

Maybe CCP feels a bit uneasy about removing it and fear some kind of backlash, but the fact is that CCP shall not fear such backlash. By neglecting avatars, they've reached their purpose of removing most WiS players (another of my prediction). Without avatar content, avatar lovers are mostly gone and only a few nuts still want them, and most of us are pre-Incarna players. Post-Incarna players never experienced the WiS fiasco and to them the avatars are, literally, the CQ and the character creator. They're in it for the pew pew spaceships, and that's what matters to CCP.

Sidetrack is that the pew pew spacships crowd is dwindling and there's not enough new players born each year to cope with the burnout of the niche, but CCP likely are in a better position to expand the game with more spaceships content, than with avatar content. Or just expand their business leaving EVE behind and trying their luck with new games.

So, weather forecast for avatars is: expect to see the CQ gone, more microtransactions for your portraits and maybe some way to show up your FBA (Full Body Avatar) by other means than the client preview.

WiS, as has been said, is dead. IMHO CCP killed the future of EVE along with it, but, who am I? I stay subscribed hoping that some day CCP would do for hisec and PvE what they're doing for nullsec and Sov. Most of what I do in EVE is forum stuff. And as long as my bitterness stays at acceptable levels, I will keep playing EVE.

Aside of that, CCP can pretty much burn in hell.

they spent the next ten minutes trying to convince the bouncer the socks were actually light goldenrod. as if anyone was going to believe that