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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#421 - 2015-02-26 15:28:23 UTC
or should that be non-dumbarsery i aint not fully learned on my english
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#422 - 2015-02-26 15:32:44 UTC
Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:
I'm sure somehow this attempted semantic nightmare you have instigated

what

what happened here today is that i tried to do something nice, and i still haven't been thanked

hint hint
Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#423 - 2015-02-26 15:35:53 UTC
No, that hasn't made how your explanation of how cloning works any more likely or actual either.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#424 - 2015-02-26 17:25:10 UTC
please continue to describe for me in specific detail the problems you've found in the fictional article you didn't read which was kindly linked for you by a certain selfless forums poster

who still hasn't been thanked for his most modest contribution

who is named me

say 'thankyou, benny', as any human being with a basic sense of decency would when done a favour
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#425 - 2015-02-26 17:47:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Goatman NotMyFault
Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

This will give a more Complete Picture of what the users of EVE think about it, and not the the few forum fanatics opinion. what you think cant be counted as what all EVE players thinks. To me, it appears that some forumusers belive that what they mean, reflexts ALL players in EVE.

Ergo would a survey make much better argument than 20 forumusers bickering page up and page Down, each one more stubborn than the other.


And what makes you think CCP would care any more about it in that form than any other so far for the last 3 years?



i can easily see why CCP dont care about this thread, or others for that matter, when some forumusers clogging up the post With bickering, ranting and no productive answers. (and its for me a big mysterium that the ISD's hasnt locked this post many many pages unless there is something going on in the shadows)


With a vote from the majority of the active playerbase of EVE, they cant just ignore it, but they can ofcourse reject a proposal for "change". But at some point, if they keep rejecing and ignoring their playerbase voices, they will at some point end up in trouble.... (the jita incident)
Marsha Mallow
#426 - 2015-02-26 18:07:19 UTC
Quote:
Clones are manufactured using biomass. Modern methods allow pretty much any kind of biomass to be used. The best clones are constructed from human cadavers, but anything from animal carcasses to organic soups can be used.

Wait, WHAT?
Quote:
Clone composition:

Certified human cadavers (Grade A+) [37%]
Uncertified human cadavers (Grade A) [32%]
Animal carcasses (Grade B) [23%]
Organic materials (Grade C) [8%]

Ugh
'Thankyou, benny' for selflessly linking lore articles which were clearly written by a giggling dev huffing some sort of narcotic.

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
i can easily see why CCP dont care about this thread, or others for that matter, when some forumusers clogging up the post With bickering, ranting and no productive answers.

That's not true. Devs pop up on the forums all the time to point and laugh at the playerbase. They're our elite trolls. You're not exactly helping promote a serious and constructive discussion with that name btw.

I think this thread should be moved to F&I and be stickied along with the AFK cloaking and SP thread. Imagine what it'll look like in a year or two if it's left to run...

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#427 - 2015-02-26 18:55:54 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Quote:
Clones are manufactured using biomass. Modern methods allow pretty much any kind of biomass to be used. The best clones are constructed from human cadavers, but anything from animal carcasses to organic soups can be used.

Wait, WHAT?
Quote:
Clone composition:

Certified human cadavers (Grade A+) [37%]
Uncertified human cadavers (Grade A) [32%]
Animal carcasses (Grade B) [23%]
Organic materials (Grade C) [8%]

Ugh
'Thankyou, benny' for selflessly linking lore articles which were clearly written by a giggling dev huffing some sort of narcotic.

Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
i can easily see why CCP dont care about this thread, or others for that matter, when some forumusers clogging up the post With bickering, ranting and no productive answers.

That's not true. Devs pop up on the forums all the time to point and laugh at the playerbase. They're our elite trolls. You're not exactly helping promote a serious and constructive discussion with that name btw.

I think this thread should be moved to F&I and be stickied along with the AFK cloaking and SP thread. Imagine what it'll look like in a year or two if it's left to run...



To make my char name a point of discussion is just childish.

And i agree it should be moved to F&I even tho the OP just asked what happend to WiS, the thread has evolved into more a F&I post yes.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#428 - 2015-02-26 18:58:09 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
'Thankyou, benny' for selflessly linking lore articles which were clearly written by a giggling dev huffing some sort of narcotic.

oh it's no big deal don't even mention it
Jenshae Chiroptera
#429 - 2015-02-27 03:19:36 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
CCP should never, ever implement a feature that encourages someone not to undock. It runs counter to every other change they make to the game.
Edit: Grr, spelling. Autocomplete why did you abandon me?
I applaud the sentiment but I am less inclined to undock the more that time goes by. P
Jenn aSide wrote:
When I'm playing EVE that ship ... is a TOOL, it's not 'me'. ...
.... Some of us don't like being 'immersed' in a game and losing track of time or sense of self, we aren't running from real life, when we play a game (like EVE) it's a kind of mental excercise, not an 'escape'.
That sounds like a very casual mentality for a non casual game.
Commissar Kate wrote:
If its made purely for social interaction 'immersion' then its a total waste of time when you should be socializing in space by blowing **** up anyway. .
Why do I care about these other ships that are blowing up to repair them or helping ships to blow up other ships?
Hint: Showing more of a "human" side to each other.
Sibyyl wrote:
Guess what, low hanging fruit is the most productive type of ideas to discuss for Character Creator. This is CCP's own suggestion. I don't want to tell you guys not to dream stuff up.. by all means do that.. but you are letting those get in the way of meaningful expectations in this space.
Nothing stopping meaningful but a few small steps forward that make big changes would help in the short to mid-term.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#430 - 2015-02-27 05:20:01 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Quote:
Clones are manufactured using biomass. Modern methods allow pretty much any kind of biomass to be used. The best clones are constructed from human cadavers, but anything from animal carcasses to organic soups can be used.

Wait, WHAT?


Yes, I remember CCP Falcon comparing them to spam at one point during one of these threads. So the paint has been passed around liberally for years.

Marsha Mallow wrote:
I think this thread should be moved to F&I and be stickied along with the AFK cloaking and SP thread. Imagine what it'll look like in a year or two if it's left to run...


There's a parallel thread in Assembly Hall.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!
Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#431 - 2015-02-27 09:48:33 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

With a vote from the majority of the active playerbase of EVE, they cant just ignore it, but they can ofcourse reject a proposal for "change". But at some point, if they keep rejecing and ignoring their playerbase voices, they will at some point end up in trouble.... (the jita incident)


Yes they can. They can do as they wish.

When you say the "Jita Incident", I assume you mean the dropping of subs, and not the nonsense that happened in Jita.

As far as I remember that was about the jeans memo, not about WiS

You also assume the vote would go your way.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#432 - 2015-02-27 09:59:20 UTC
Ma'Baker McCandless wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

With a vote from the majority of the active playerbase of EVE, they cant just ignore it, but they can ofcourse reject a proposal for "change". But at some point, if they keep rejecing and ignoring their playerbase voices, they will at some point end up in trouble.... (the jita incident)


Yes they can. They can do as they wish.

When you say the "Jita Incident", I assume you mean the dropping of subs, and not the nonsense that happened in Jita.

As far as I remember that was about the jeans memo, not about WiS

You also assume the vote would go your way.



Im well aware of that they can do what they want, but igoring the players the players too lobg, may have a bad effect in the long run.

I dont really care how the vote goes, my point of view is more objective which i want to see a more Complete Picture of what the playerbase desires and not what the forumusers belives is the best for the playerbase to desire
Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#433 - 2015-02-27 10:04:55 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:

Im well aware of that they can do what they want, but igoring the players the players too lobg, may have a bad effect in the long run.

I dont really care how the vote goes, my point of view is more objective which i want to see a more Complete Picture of what the playerbase desires and not what the forumusers belives is the best for the playerbase to desire


How long is too long? You seem to believe there is enough support to warrant a vote in the first place, and yet CCP have ignored that for three years.

Why don't you start polling users if you think that its a good idea?
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#434 - 2015-02-27 13:15:00 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
When I'm playing EVE that ship ... is a TOOL, it's not 'me'. ...
.... Some of us don't like being 'immersed' in a game and losing track of time or sense of self, we aren't running from real life, when we play a game (like EVE) it's a kind of mental excercise, not an 'escape'.
That sounds like a very casual mentality for a non casual game.


What does 'casual' or hardcore have to do with what i said? (rhetorical question, everyone knows the answer is 'nothing'). Being an 'immersion' player or a 'mental challenge' player is separate from how much or how seriously you play.
Alexei Stryker
Council of Stellar Erections
#435 - 2015-02-27 21:44:22 UTC
Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#436 - 2015-02-27 21:59:34 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You know, I was going to make a lengthy post, posing the question as to why this pathetic, glorified tech demo has enraptured a minority of diehards who want it at all costs, including the potential death of it's parent game...


The answer is pretty easy actually.


Indeed: Unlike with any of the games you've mentioned, CCP has promised this for EVE more or less from the get-go, and they continue to hint at it ("A Future Vision," "The Prophecy"). There have been two internal projects to deliver it, although both were during the bad old days when CCP had no development discipline, and when they suffered from a greatly exaggerated sense of their own invincibility.

They even tasked a team to develop a new kind of avatar gameplay (exploration in abandoned stations) and pronounced the resulting experiment a success.

It's not a priority now, for entirely understandable reasons. It may not ship in the current EVE client, also for understandable reasons. But EVE is not X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter. It's not Elite: Dangerous, either. Avatar gameplay in EVE has been promised for years. It shouldn't surprise anyone that there are players who'd like a delivery on that promise.

Nothing's impossible, right? I mean, they're refurbishing their game engine *and* looking into replacements for POSes *and* fixing sov. The "War on the Impossible" is over, and the work on updating the game is progressing nicely.

Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.

I voted in CSM X!
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#437 - 2015-02-27 23:46:21 UTC
Dersen Lowery wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You know, I was going to make a lengthy post, posing the question as to why this pathetic, glorified tech demo has enraptured a minority of diehards who want it at all costs, including the potential death of it's parent game...


The answer is pretty easy actually.


Indeed: Unlike with any of the games you've mentioned, CCP has promised this for EVE more or less from the get-go, and they continue to hint at it ("A Future Vision," "The Prophecy"). There have been two internal projects to deliver it, although both were during the bad old days when CCP had no development discipline, and when they suffered from a greatly exaggerated sense of their own invincibility.

They even tasked a team to develop a new kind of avatar gameplay (exploration in abandoned stations) and pronounced the resulting experiment a success.

It's not a priority now, for entirely understandable reasons. It may not ship in the current EVE client, also for understandable reasons. But EVE is not X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter. It's not Elite: Dangerous, either. Avatar gameplay in EVE has been promised for years. It shouldn't surprise anyone that there are players who'd like a delivery on that promise.

Nothing's impossible, right? I mean, they're refurbishing their game engine *and* looking into replacements for POSes *and* fixing sov. The "War on the Impossible" is over, and the work on updating the game is progressing nicely.



How do you have time to post, shouldn't you be enjoying that ocean front property you bought in Nebraska. I mean the guy you spoke to over the phone with the middle eastern accent who said his name is "Jeff" promised it, so it's got to be there right?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#438 - 2015-02-28 03:50:33 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
When I'm playing EVE that ship ... is a TOOL, it's not 'me'. ...
.... Some of us don't like being 'immersed' in a game and losing track of time or sense of self, we aren't running from real life, when we play a game (like EVE) it's a kind of mental excercise, not an 'escape'.
That sounds like a very casual mentality for a non casual game.
What does 'casual' or hardcore have to do with what i said? (rhetorical question, everyone knows the answer is 'nothing'). Being an 'immersion' player or a 'mental challenge' player is separate from how much or how seriously you play.
... and so you make my point. Whether they have WiS mentality or not doesn't mean you need to come and trample over them.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#439 - 2015-02-28 04:08:05 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Whether they have WiS mentality or not doesn't mean you need to come and trample over them.


It definitely does, actually. Trying to restart a program that just about killed the game and left CCP with a half decade technical debt they will never repay is absolutely unconscionable.

But since Space Barbie cultists never seem to be stamped out entirely, eternal vigilance against this sedition must be exercised.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#440 - 2015-02-28 04:12:44 UTC
I'm sure they'll get back to this non-feature after they:

Break SOV
Fix SOV
Nerf Ishtar
Remove drone assist
Buff Ishtar to make up for the drone assist removal
Nerf Titans again
Rebalance T3 cruisers
Add T3 everything else to make up for nerfed T3 cruisers
Remove bombs
Add mines back in to make up for lost bombs
New snowball launcher effects
More types of fireworks
14 more wacky deployables
Invent a laser that can write "Buy EvE Online" on the moon


...and player made stargates that go to Jove space


See you in 2020