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Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#301 - 2015-02-24 15:38:29 UTC
Not reading this thread, but just wanted to say,

Walkers in Stations will probably encounter some copyright problems.

That is all.Smile

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#302 - 2015-02-24 19:15:09 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Dave kazkade wrote:
I bet no dev's will give any say on WiS, because there is probably no development going on with it, I think we have to accept the fact that no matter how cool WiS would be, it will be a feature that will never show up in eve, dev's have not stated anything about it. plenty of people are asking for it, but instead we get t3 destroyers and allot of useless things that would not change the game as well and WiS would experience wise. And this is saying something because I live in wormhole space were stations dont even exist, still, walking in stations would at least add a layer to gameplay that people would have wished ccp would have started working on sooner.


CCP has stated twice, through their Executive Producers, that WiS is not something they are interested with, and CCP Seagull was more specific stating that even if they did something like it, it would be as a separate game in the "franchise". And she was not talking about Legion but about some other game CCP wouldn't be able to develop until 6-8 years from now.

As facts speak louder than words (and very specially with CCP), they just wrote off the technology used for WiS, fired everyone who worked on it and all but closed the office working on it.

That of course doesn't changes the inconvenient fact that some players want more avatar content.


Indy, me old mate, it looks like you're finally winning out of the Depression stage, through to Acceptance.

CCP just announced 30 day trials. Why not start your RvB alt now?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#303 - 2015-02-24 20:32:51 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Dave kazkade wrote:
I bet no dev's will give any say on WiS, because there is probably no development going on with it, I think we have to accept the fact that no matter how cool WiS would be, it will be a feature that will never show up in eve, dev's have not stated anything about it. plenty of people are asking for it, but instead we get t3 destroyers and allot of useless things that would not change the game as well and WiS would experience wise. And this is saying something because I live in wormhole space were stations dont even exist, still, walking in stations would at least add a layer to gameplay that people would have wished ccp would have started working on sooner.


CCP has stated twice, through their Executive Producers, that WiS is not something they are interested with, and CCP Seagull was more specific stating that even if they did something like it, it would be as a separate game in the "franchise". And she was not talking about Legion but about some other game CCP wouldn't be able to develop until 6-8 years from now.

As facts speak louder than words (and very specially with CCP), they just wrote off the technology used for WiS, fired everyone who worked on it and all but closed the office working on it.

That of course doesn't changes the inconvenient fact that some players want more avatar content.


Indy, me old mate, it looks like you're finally winning out of the Depression stage, through to Acceptance.

CCP just announced 30 day trials. Why not start your RvB alt now?


Hey, in the last months, I made my first PvP kill, and just three weeks ago, I podded someone! Pirate
Serene Repose
#304 - 2015-02-24 20:46:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
Okay. I'll spill the beans. We already walk around in stations. Only, our hikes are limited to our quarters. Why?
All the station floors have just been mopped and we aren't allowed on them for insurance reasons.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Anslo
Scope Works
#305 - 2015-02-24 20:47:46 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Okay. I'll spill the beans. We already walk around in stations. Only, our hikes are limited to our quarters. Why? All the station floors have just been mopped and we aren't allowed on them for insurance reasons.

I actually lol'd IRL. I don't know why. But I did. thank you for this.

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#306 - 2015-02-24 21:31:22 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
That of course doesn't changes the inconvenient fact that some players want more avatar content.

And getting it.

I like your yellow catsuit. Blink

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#307 - 2015-02-24 21:34:56 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
You seem surprised lol


EVE is very far from being the perfect RP platform. There are other games that are far better because people can more easily accept being an elf or a satyr or a fellow in a Star Trek uniform than they can accept being a spaceship. The nods to EVE's RP community are few and far between. Sure, there are exploding stars and Drifters which can be solo'd by Ventures, but none of those are particularly compelling enough in the whole. The RP experience is an afterthought and really only perpetuates itself because of the imagination and tenacity of that community.

That said, Jen's idea grossly underestimates the development effort. I get this from CCP's clothing workshop where something as trivial to us as a new hair model was a ton of work for a developer (I believe they are not exaggerating one bit).

Jen's idea also "opens" the CQ door without any modifications that would be a basis for immersion. Without a necessary amount of immersion the feature would not see widescale use.

I don't think jumping on any novelty idea is particularly good for the game, even if short term it might seem like a cool thing to you.

I support well formed ideas with a solid 30,000 foot view, not hacks conceived of on the back of a napkin without any long term value to the game.

I haven't even read those posts so have no idea what you're talking about.

I think you missed the context of my comment.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#308 - 2015-02-24 21:49:30 UTC

Erica, I'm sorry I misunderstood you. And please go get some sleep Blink

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#309 - 2015-02-24 21:52:01 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Erica, I'm sorry I misunderstood you. And please go get some sleep Blink

Excuse me?


Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#310 - 2015-02-24 22:22:10 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Malcanis wrote:


Indy, me old mate, it looks like you're finally winning out of the Depression stage, through to Acceptance.

CCP just announced 30 day trials. Why not start your RvB alt now?


Hey, in the last months, I made my first PvP kill, and just three weeks ago, I podded someone! Pirate


♥

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#311 - 2015-02-24 22:31:51 UTC
So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.


And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?

2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up.
ACESsiggy
Deaths Consortium
#312 - 2015-02-24 22:50:24 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.


And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?

2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up.


Just like jump animation thread?

Thanks for adding something meaningful to this post lol

Hopefully they add "run" option for our characters (shift key) to make it feel more fluid getting around if they ever do create WiS.

Pretty complete game if you ask me if WiS was added with meaningful content and a dust 514 PC version for some FPS ground game action.

“The open-minded see the truth in different things: the narrow-minded see only the differences.”
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#313 - 2015-02-24 23:16:58 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.


And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?

2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up.


A statement? CCP can state what they want. We also can state what we want... And my guess is that we are not alone outside of CCP, but within CCP there are also a few people who think like us.

Of course their opinion may have a crapton less doom and gloom than mine, and less wishful thinking than Erica's, but even after 4 years EVE still haves some nice avatars with lots of potential. They're real and WoD proved that they were functional.

CCP is on the wrong road, but they still can take another one. If they dare to.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#314 - 2015-02-24 23:33:34 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.


And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?

2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up.


A statement? CCP can state what they want. We also can state what we want... And my guess is that we are not alone outside of CCP, but within CCP there are also a few people who think like us.

Of course their opinion may have a crapton less doom and gloom than mine, and less wishful thinking than Erica's, but even after 4 years EVE still haves some nice avatars with lots of potential. They're real and WoD proved that they were functional.

CCP is on the wrong road, but they still can take another one. If they dare to.



Well it would be interesting to actually see CCP comee With a comment about this issue or others With much attention.
Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#315 - 2015-02-24 23:39:45 UTC
To answer the question as to what happened to WiS, the final word on it, before being consigned to a very dusty shelf, is here:

CCP Unifex has the final, final word. The end. Period.

I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg

CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#316 - 2015-02-25 00:03:14 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Corwin Valour wrote:
Walking in station is a good and bad thing.

From the stand point of Starcitizen it is all about imersion.

Take this video of the game: CitizenCon 2014: Persistent Universe Demo

As for Eve Online, I'm not sure it is needed as it doesn't really fit with the way the game has been designed.



Well said.

That video proves that their are different kinds of gamers. I know people who experience pants creaming upon seeing the kind of things you see in that video... It simply doesn't do a damn thing for me. I look at it and think "man, that's a whole lot of time wasting there, I prefer to do it like EVE, dock, smash buttons, undock".

20 years ago (when I was, well, a 20 year old lol) that kind of thing would have made me turn flips, now it just seems like useless fluff. The same kind of useless fluff that a few people want to see in EVE for some reason.



yea unfortunately i look at a lot of SC video's and think '**** that looks boring." Walking to a ship, fliping your helmet, climbing in waititng for the ship be aligned, even if it takes 1-2 min... is 1-2 min less i can play. Just liek landing in planets, oo i can walk around my ship as my ship lands... it just taxes 5 min to land the damn thing.. and thats 5 min i could be playing... yea.. no.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#317 - 2015-02-25 00:17:52 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.


And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?

2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up.


A statement? CCP can state what they want. We also can state what we want... And my guess is that we are not alone outside of CCP, but within CCP there are also a few people who think like us.

Of course their opinion may have a crapton less doom and gloom than mine, and less wishful thinking than Erica's, but even after 4 years EVE still haves some nice avatars with lots of potential. They're real and WoD proved that they were functional.

CCP is on the wrong road, but they still can take another one. If they dare to.



Well it would be interesting to actually see CCP comee With a comment about this issue or others With much attention.


They have. They're not doing WiS. How much clearer can they possibly be short of writing "We're not doing WiS" on you front lawn with kerosene and lighting it on fire the day before your birthday?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#318 - 2015-02-25 00:19:18 UTC
One more note:

I have heard that ccp might revieal a new product at fan fest (no i have no source, as i said its a roumer) and as they are not doing a dust/legion key note, and the eve keynote is on thurs... there is an awefully big spot to fill on Friday where a key note COULD be

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#319 - 2015-02-25 00:22:17 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
So after 309 replies about this WiS, it seems the lack agreement never seems to suprice the forum.


And its not the first time this has been discussed, so its in my view, a doublestandard here. Usually redundant post are closed, why hasnt this been closed?

2nd... when a post gets so much replies and there are a endless rant back and fourth, With a no distant future of some agreement, CCP should really come With a statement to shut you People up.


A statement? CCP can state what they want. We also can state what we want... And my guess is that we are not alone outside of CCP, but within CCP there are also a few people who think like us.

Of course their opinion may have a crapton less doom and gloom than mine, and less wishful thinking than Erica's, but even after 4 years EVE still haves some nice avatars with lots of potential. They're real and WoD proved that they were functional.

CCP is on the wrong road, but they still can take another one. If they dare to.



Well it would be interesting to actually see CCP comee With a comment about this issue or others With much attention.

According to some here they already have and it's the be all and end all.

But the thing is we already know the official stance on the old wis concept. But despite the no-wis position we're still seeing gradual yet tiny developments on the avatar side of things all the time. So where does that leave us?

It'd be like asking for CCP to give a statement saying they'll never close, never merge, never move offices. They just can't give a definitive or ultimate answer on the future like that, let alone a promise, only the present and a stone's thread ahead.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#320 - 2015-02-25 01:14:47 UTC
In my opinion, or onion, I think EVE would been much more "healthier" With WiS. These days, aint many that really looking forward to the "NeXT big release"... Yeah some few, like some parts of the releases, but i fear that the majority of players couldnt care less. And the forum dont reflekt the hole playerbase of EVE. If all players had used the Forum, i belive there would be much more pro's than con's