EVE General Discussion

I still aspire to one day open an avatar beauty boutique / salon in one of the available trade units in the main Plaza of Amarrs Emperor Family station.

I envisage a grand public transport hyper loop network augmented by interconnecting metro tunnels allowing for small, but powerful and speedy mechanised avatar mounts to travel along as a means to conveniently, and quickly commute between my CQ and desired destinations within the station environment.

Courting avatars might take scenic hand held walks along the main promenade at night, enjoying each other’s company as they digest the visual splendour of the views from the observation domes offering magnificent vantage points of the planet below emanating with the solar glow from distant stars.

Those who enjoy a flutter might frequent the gambling booths with their hard-earned intersteller kredits. The double your isk slot machines will no doubt be rigged and best avoided however. Such establishments would require a contingent of burly security personnel to keep those who encounter misfortune from becoming unruly.

Thirsty capsuleers might sate their palates in one of the many mead taverns or refreshment parlours. Those of high esteem and wealth would likely gather at social establishments on the upper levels but nothing might rival the lively atmospheric buzz the rowdy common capsuleers could generate in the lower level musical dancing halls.

The midnight candle bistros or delicacies in alternative eateries would be a fine way to wind down and end an evening after having absorbed exhilarating entertainment at the grand Amarr Cineplex with all the spectacles it has to offer. The Gallente Girls Go-Go show no doubt would not be for those faint of heart or a prudish nature.

This is the vision, a glimpse of the future. Please make it a reality.

And what will be the design of the other 373 stations in Domain?

This is EVE Online, a SINGLE SHARD game. Everything affects everyone. Freaking 'beauty salons' and people wasting server cycles having 'avatar meetings in hangers' in a game where 30 people jumping a gate causes TiDi damn well would affect all of us. This isn't even to mention the influx of undesirables who would most likely cling to high sec (as most of the MMO world is made up of the carebear type player) and add their 15 buck voices to the chorus demanding ever more protection.

No thanks. You can have your watered down experience if that's what you like, but I'll continue to advocate for better for this community.

You mad bruh?

Just think, all your mining efforts and moon gue will fund all these pet projects of yours. I've heard a rainbow design mining ship to be put on the AUR store.... can't wait to see the final product.

The beginning of the end for WoD predictably didn’t have anything to do with that project at all. In June of 2011, CCP launched Incarna, one of Eve’s regular expansions. Incarna was primarily focused on allowing players to interact with the world as their character avatars, rather than just their ships, for the first time.
One of the key new additions was the “Captains Quarters”, which allowed your avatar to leave their craft and wander around a limited section of the game’s space stations. The system was underpinned by CCP’s Carbon framework, a technology designed to allow the sharing of code between games; this would facilitate the transfer of WoD’s character movement technology to the Eve project.

But development of Incarna was not going smoothly. “As little as a few weeks out from launch, the lead designers were still trying to add features to the Captain’s Quarters,” says Blood. “But without the time or resources to properly do so, many things were left half-delivered, to be iterated upon later – which never happened. CCP has an extensive track record of promising to return to features and never doing so. There was little discipline to the process.”

Worst of all, according to Blood, the entire point of the expansion (walking around space stations) was let down by the Reykjavic office’s art team; it took them nearly the entire development time to create one faction’s Captains Quarters. Yet again, the WoD team was asked to cross over in order to bail out an Eve expansion.

Our sources say it took them a fraction of the time to create the one room station interiors for the other three factions. Blood recalls the friction between the teams on this point. “While it certainly vindicated the WoD artists in terms of work ethic, I remember it was a sore point between the offices that the much vaunted Icelandic crew had been so demonstrably shown up.”

That's funny, I was going to say the same thing to you.

Take a look around. When you try and simplify things for others it's often possible to lose sight of the bigger picture. You see the thing is something doesn't actually have to be on CCP's 'agenda' today for the player base to desire it and for it eventually come to fruition.

Please, for the sake of my sanity and my faith in humanity: please don't retort with an answer that boils down to "I'll hold my breath and scream and scream if I don't get what I want".

I'm asking nicely here.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf
revelant and has former dev/gm dude opening talking about how ccp works on these things and great read about the death of the vampire mmo that blames incarnia (WiS)

All go read that who have never yet. It has a former dev/gm opening discussing a lot of the terrible business practices of ccp and why things like WiS actually killed the vampire MMO and almost killed Eve.

Also im sure Dust/valkiry/occulus rift are just repeating this history. Oh well you live and learn... or ya dont

"The nuke didn't kill them, the fallout radiation did."

Yeah dude, WiS almost killed EVE. Because by wasting so much time, money, and development resources on Space Barbies, CCP earned themselves a technical debt that they will never be able to pay back.

Yes, it was their decision to engage in this folly that lead to it, but the root cause is the very concept of WiS ever being entertained in the first place.

Asking for it again is like asking Wile E. Coyote to tune up your car. It's not a matter of if he's going to **** it up, but how and just how badly it will hurt you.