EVE General Discussion

If WiS was an optional component, akin to a separate game, but directly accessible through EVE, allowing it to act as a separate area with minigames and conference halls and whatnot, then there's nothing stopping them charging for it. I'd pay a one off fee for the addition of WiS to my account to allow me to walk about the station and such. They could even do payments by PLEX. Like a PLEX unlocks an accounts ability to use WiS for example, though I'd say the existing CQs should allow access to a Corp or Alliance meeting room for free. As long as it's not adding anything that's directly beneficial to EVE and is purely a sidegame, I don't see any issues with it beyond the standard complaint that any change would get.

If you want all this WiS that has no semantic bearing in the game. Why not boot up Star I want to take a dump in space Citizen and well take a dump? Or have a shower, in space.

I am being a bit serious here. If that is what your into what is wrong with perhaps playing more than one game? There are games out there with this sort of game play. I personally hate it, but if it is so important, perhaps give em a go.

And how well is Dust doing again? As a FPS its not doing well at all last i heard. That is good enough reason, if i wanted to spend money on SC i would have paid for it. I want eve and i don't want eve to become another SC or ED. And no you can't do that sort of development without spending a lot of real life ISKies.

Sure when everything else is fixed.. what in 2045 perhaps then they can have a look at a some minigame most of new eden will turn off.

What relevance is the success of dust?

And if CCP want to put in WiS, why does it matter to you? Just don't use it and TADA, you don't have to see it. What possible effect do you think it would have on you that isn't simply "Dev time" which is an moot point since they are developing 2 games other than EVE right now?

And they can do what they want, when they want. If they want to throw in a half-arsed attempt at space minecraft into a door from your CQ, they can do so. They don't actually need your permission, and I doubt many players who say they will quit will actually have the balls to biomass.

I see your point, but would the additional work really be any different from what they will need to do for Valkyrie or Legion? And I doubt those will be where CCP stops. They are a business and they will grow to accommodate more and bigger projects where they can to generate revenue. It seems really strange to me that if CCP say "we're ging to add some avatar gameplay to stations", people lose their minds, but if they say "We're going to devote years of time to producing a VR combat flight simulator set in the EVE universe and possibly linked to EVE in the future" everyone's like "OK", as if they are going to get all the staff to support that from a magic dev pool, but the WiS ones would be all from core feature improvement teams.

Seems that way. I mean look at ll the topics on this, there are alot of people who really want the avatar game play. Even some who were part of the summer of rage that want it (i/m guessing cause the summer of rage and the release of Incarnia was so bad it made people who wanted it, like me, get pissed off) Honestly, like the pilot program with the ship painting, it would not be that difficult to release say 10 special edition outfits and maybe a hanger decoration, and see how well it sells and see if people actually want it. You also say "all the money from this sell will go to make more WiS environments if successful" so if it fails, then you wasted maybe a few days of dev time. But if it succeeds....

OFC ccp won't do it, but i think they should. It would be the perfect way to tie all there games together. and enable a big social aspect for each game too. And then the people who want to play space barbie and show off can.

I really should of followed through fully with my csm X campeange but stupid me forgot to san my passport, oh well.

Honestly, my suggestion is sound. Make it so people who want it can pay for it. its that simple. Microtranactions go to pay for WiS development, which would increase microtransaction sales.

Having you explore dead stations should be in legion, i just thing we could come up with ways that wis would work for people who want to play. I mean how many times have you sat in a station system waititng for a fleet op, and you are ready to go but the rest of the guys take another 30 min. I think it would be more interesting to do something besides ship spin. But this is the idea of valk, play a quick game while you wait for the fleet to roll

if the microtransaction are just for cosmetics in eve (i don;t care how valk or legion will handle this, and i occationally play dust so that don;t bother me either) and it went to pay for WiS development directly, then why woudl you have an issue? if you don;t use it, and ccp keeps eve going then why does it matter?

I understand the problem was they shifted too many resources to WoD and WiS, and we got a fizzle as opposed to a big bang for all the dev time. But times have changed, and they seem to be making better choices. One can aruge that dust is breaking even at least, but we can;t tell till the finical report is out, and even then thats still vegaue.

And to anyone who says "dur why don;t you pay for SC.." because *gasp* SC is not eve.

Its not that hard to understand. I play eve because i LOVE eve. I love the game play, the single server, the training system, the freedom, i absolutly LOVE eve. However, i can see room for eve to grow and improve. I don;t want eve to have a space toliet, but i'd love for eve to have dark avatar game play, from brothels to bars, to fight pits, to corp and alliance chambers, to other things to kill time while i wait for soemthing in space to happen.

This SC vs EVE argument is stupid. Beyond the fact that SC is vaporware, EVE and SC are not even in the same damn legue. There is no other game like eve out there, why can;t ti grow to become something better. WiS could ENHANCE the expereince, or add new game play elements. if its paid for by people who want it, like valk and dust and legion are, then why shoudl that bother you? If the microt transactions spill into eve play, i.e. golden ammo that does 1000X more damnage for the low price of $1 for 100 rounds, then yea f that. But if you can get a hat, cigar, glasses, clothes, or other stuff that changes nothing, then.. your issue is what?

Meanwhile in other news, the improved opportunities based NPE will make the new players start in space.

I'll be shocked if the CQ becomes a part of the opportunities system. (Seriously: "Enter your Captain's Quarters -> Walk around your Captain's Quarters-> Sit on the couch -> Stand up again -> Congratulations!")

I'll be a little surprised if the CQ still is a part of the client by Fanfest 2016, too.

And all that other stuff will also get old real fast since it doesn't have any meaningful gameplay. A virtual bar with virtual beer is going to be no more interesting or relevant than a conversation in Jita local.

I think it is still very strange i can not meet other players in station

to do trading
meet other people
socializing
meet friends
meet the enemy and talk it all over

just chat a bit

I want to make a call here.... for cccp to tell the community there point of view on this matter (i am not ranting, just asking)

it is such a missed opportunity