EVE General Discussion

They aren't locked into anything. No one is. No one is mandated to min/max, and if they do but find they missed a skill to complete their current plan they can train it out of map. The reasoning you present is only valid of someone has to train at peak rates, which is only the case if self imposed, and someone who does that is just as likely to get caught up in any other aspect which has a clear highest numbers strategy even if not personally optimal.

If "locking in" is the only issue than there is no actual issue with the attribute system, just obsessive attitudes, which CCP can't fix.

I think it's a bit different.

Most relevant threads get decent DEV activity, it's just that there's no point in faking interest if there's already a design decision made. We're Don Quichotting against something that's already decided.

So your question is more important than mine? I was under the impression I get to ask questions for having a sub, just like you.

I wasn't the one who introduced the "be nice to devs" idea into this thread. The discussion is fine, but the addition of that excuse is a bit much. With it, what's the point?

Actually, spamming GMs with lol nonsense they have no say on and isn't part of their job is fcking terrible and (imo) should result in trouble in case of abuse.

A remap can be picked once a year. So saying that you can just pick one doesn't make any sense. But basically you are right, that's exactly what I want. Remove ****** gameplay.
I'm stating that the game is forcing me to nothing but should enable me to have fun. This is not a part of it. And I play and enjoy Dwarf Fortress, so please don't tell me what fun is to me...
Your comments are obviously just based on wannabe deformation of others and don't contain anything of value. Denying this is an obvious lie.

They hope you will just leave them so they can turn this thread into an echo chamber... which will be ignored anyway I guess?

It means everyone else is forced to choose it as well.

Though that was obvious

Well yes, but it's always funny to see people twist and turn avoiding the truth, which in this case is "I don't like how choices might restrict me and thus I don't want others to have those choices either because :reasons:". Oh yeah that really sounds like "it would be better for the game and/or newbies".

So I missed the actual post where Darwin mentioned the 50mil per pod now vs without learning.. so I'll answer that now. Too many pages back now to find lol.

No. if I fly about with learning implants, it's to learn faster. If I PVP with learning implants or mission or whatever, that's the goal, even when I have other implants plugged in. But across all my alts, only One has implants other than learning, and that's Ascendancy. Most 1-5 slot implants are limited in use (apart from the Geno's). Snakes and Slaves are likely the most common, but they still are there for limited cases.

Eve doesn't even offer a far variety of all implants there. We have an Armor HP set, that works on all ships, then a Shield Boost set that only works on subcaps. There's no Armor Rep set, or Shield HP set. Others are very limited in use. Just for Mining. Just for Scanning. Just for reducing your specific races sensors.

But if I undock with implants and pvp, it's cause they benefit me, I don't set out a price point and say okay, pod's gotta stay under X isk. It's no, It's I'm training this still, so I'll drop in 2x +3's (or whatever), and maybe a 3% Damange 3% ROF. Take away the +3's, and I'm just gonna not spend that isk. Uping to 4%'s costs a hell of a lot more than 2x +3's, and other implants really aren't of the same level of benefit as the 2 damage ones.


It was also mentioned that removing learning frees up slots. We don't need them to be freed up. CCP can add more whenever they want. Just look at the Golden Pod - Auroral AU-79, it fits in, shocking I know, slot 79.


Again, if your reason is learning implants limit PVP, make them more like the Cerebral Accelerator boosters. Rather than plug and for life, make it so you need to plug them in every, say, month, or so? Then make it so they don't get destroyed with the pod. (I still think my suggestion of a implant-less pvp clone is better.. but this is just another option..)