Jita Park Speakers Corner

The very first goal I had, with my very first character (not ishtanchuk), was to be a part of a honorable mercenary corporation that podded and made life miserable to scammers, thieves, pirates and the such. Know why?

That was because in my very first PvP encounter, the other guy apologyzed for blowing my miner cruiser and paid it back to me.

Have stopped laughing?

Yet?

Go figure. The very first time I had a close, personal encounter with a player, it turned to be a nice guy who had killed me by mistake and behaved decently afterwards. One in a thousand.

Then I joined EVE-U and it was wardecced every week.

Then I wondered why there were no more players like the one I had encountered, and why it was so bloody easy to be a useless piece of garbage and so bloody difficult to try and help others and build something nice.

Then I learned that EVE's rules are intended to mean that there is no hope, yadda yadda, and began PvEing, and my goals became things as primal and unsophisticate as fly exploration ships, get good status with every empire faction, be able to fly this or that BS with maximum skills, et cetera.

"You" ("vosotros", not "tú") can have all he grim universe of death you want, but as long as i am forced to either play EVE or don't play online hardcore freelancing SF games, I will try to get some content to keep myself amused... within reason.

BTW, I've given up so far figuring of ways that bounty hunting could work as an effective punishment for the very effective crimes in EVE. But currently it's beyond broken: it's non-existant. EVE is about how fun it is to be a piece of human excrement when the universe rules that nobody can flush crap down the toilet...

I already come from there. And if EVE had a bizarro twin about bringing civilization alive rather than feast on its corpse, I would buy it.

But EVE is what there is so I just ask for some fun within EVE's concept.

That's funny, I was under the impression that QR was only 3 years late.

Well first off, I should have italicized almost exclusively differently. The only real "solo" content beyond normal missions (which have barely changed in years) are the epic pirate arcs.

One could argue that scan sites are "solo content" as well, but realistically, you're much safer and more successful when you do them in groups.

As to the "continue to be" comment, I wasn't referring to anything specific or claiming to have any insider knowledge as to CCP''s development philosophy. I just meant that all the buzz about summer expansion so far points towards another Crucible - more iterations, fixing some core broken systems (Like nullsec sov and FW) and more bug fixes and balancing efforts. Nothing CCP's said so far seems to suggest any new solo PvE content along the lines of new story arcs, or additional sites at this point in time.

Overall, content always just seems to be designed to favor group play, and I don't see this changing any time soon. Even what used to be primarily solo ventures, such as PI, now involve a much more competitive / cooperative element to them. The new Tier 3 BC's are not missioning boats for solo players, they fail miserably in the absence of a well rounded fleet. Even if they don't come out and say "this is not a game for solo players" they certainly seem to design content that way.

And thats not a bad thing at all, really. Just something players should use to temper their expectations.

A "Crucible" focused on industry, R&D, invention and PvE would be an amazing improvement to EVE.

You are confusing an mmo with "team play." These are not the same. You can have team play without an mmo. In fact atari had team play in the early 80s.

What people do in high sec incursions is "team play." But for the most part does not require an mmo. For the most part, they could easilly get their team of 10-30 and go play on a server against the sansha ai that was not even connected to the net. That part of their experience would not be different.

I say "for the most part" because there will very rarely be a griefer or whatever that interferes. But by and large they are just a group playing against a computer ai. They are not really engaging in an mmo.

The only time that they will effectively be able to tell they are in an mmo is when they go to sell their stuff on the market . Of course they likely do that solo and not as a team. So the only part of high sec incursions that actually requires being in an mmo is the part they do solo.

There is nothing anti-mmo about exploring the eve universe solo instead of on a tour bus.

Yes please!!!

I cancelled my subs to EON magazine as so fed up with the huge indy expansion profiled and spelled out in the magazine which then failed to appear in game.

Endgame? What is this mythical thing called an endgame?

We are in a sandbox. There is no end of the story. If you are asking for something to challenge your 4 billion isk officer fit pimp mobile marauder in high sec . . . . . . . bro, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

This is a place where we as citizens of New Eden get to make the story. Ask CCP for different shovels or dump trucks or different tools to play in the sandbox.

Don't just ask for bubbble gum content that is done once and is boring afterwards.

For me, the tools I'd like to see is a better way to handle information associated with the overview and an expanded exploration system that can release more small tech advances into New Eden.

The way your first post was written I assumed that you were asking for more missions in high sec. My mistake.

In general I like the base to your idea, but the problem is that CCP is trying to make it a completely player run economy (hence why PI is now used to help fuel pos's as opposed to NPC sell orders). Selling things to any of the empires/corps would put an artificial price on anything that it touches which is something that I don't think anyone really wants.

Again, this is simply untrue. There have been plenty of suggestions on how to make more isk / hour as a solo player besides highsec level 4's.

1.) Trading.
2.) Scamming.
3.) Lowsec missions - particularly FW missions - vastly more isk / hour than highsec 4's and still completely soloable.
4.) Wormholes - sleeper loot from a few soloable sites in one of the smaller wormholes can certainly exceed 30 mil an hour or more.
5.) Gas mining - some of the higher priced booster gas can be mined in lowsec, and can add up to over 30 mil an hour.
6.) Blackmail/extortion/racketeering - I personally know individuals who can extract isk from other players using nothing more than chat windows. Observation, note taking, and careful manipulation can result in BILLIONS being transferred with or without good cause - it just takes some craftiness.
7.) Nullsec anomolies - you don't need to be in an alliance to access nullsec. There are ways to get ships in and out safely, even as a solo player with a single account, and ways to travel to your stash of ships without getting caught in bubble camps.

I'm sure there are activities that I've missed, but there are plenty of ways to make isk that don't take a lot of time. Really, it should not take any more than a weekend day a month to provide a PLEX worth of isk. And that's as a solo player, with one account. All of the above with the exception of scamming and blackmail are activities I've personally done (again, solo with one account) and earned well above the 30m / hour you benchmark. I think you are limiting yourself by not considering lowsec or nullsec areas of the game.

The question again is - what will you do with your isk? Your previous posts suggest you simply collect stuff. Buy a fleet of blinged out ships that just sit there. This, of course, has its limits, as the rate at which CCP will likely release new "stuffs" into the game will be much slower than your ability to earn them. EvE just simply isn't a loot-grab sort of game, new items and ships are rolled out sparingly, because the emphasis is on allowing players to find their own ways to have fun with the stuff that's there.

If your EvE experience has turned into grinding enough level 4 missions to pay for another month of grinding level 4 missions, that's pretty unfortunate. There are faster ways to make isk, they just require some bravery and the willingness to ask for some help learning to defend yourself outside highsec. But honestly, if you don't have any ideas as to what to do with your isk, new ways to earn extra isk won't help you have more fun. CCP can't set those goals for you - or tell you what you want to spend it on. Thats a personal decision they intentionally leave to the creativity of the players.

On another note - I've been playing Star Wars: The Old Republic - a game that is chock full of the "Go here, do this" content that is spoon fed to the players. Don't expect the freedom or the consequences or the meaning to your actions that EvE gives you - but if you want to be told what to do, and have all the single player missions you want, check it out. They even give you decent NPC companions so you don't have to make real friends to get through missions!

And no, I'm not trying to kill another subscriber, I just want Fazmarai to have fun. If they're not going to be creative, adventurous, or make up their own mind as to what they want to do in a game, ST:TOR is a great choice.