Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Tracking of fighters and fighter bombers also have to be reduced.

This is f#$%^&g bull$*!&

You guys did wonders for sub caps.... but under these obviously biased "in favor of lesser ships" Devs, Rifters online just became Rifters online II: Anti-caps.

I knew there was a reason why I unsubbed 13 accounts so far.... Guess I can - a few more now with a smile on my face.

I'm not sure "fix" is the right word.
After all, what is the problem with assigning (can't set fighters to assist) fighters.
They have just has their scan res cut by 50% and tracking reduced, so unless you are using them to shoot a Poco or bigger they will be of little assistance.

I know they will "fix" assigning fighters though. It will be "fixed" to appease the 3 people who complained about instead of playing eve like everyone else and finding a way to deal with it.
Eve is not about whinging to devs about how unfair it is. Or at least it never used to be and shouldn't be.
Every ill thought out, knee jerk, nerf reduces the "sandbox" element of Eve.
One more slice taken out of the "sandbox", just makes it smaller.

I for one would like to see the statistics this change were based on.
I'd love to see the statistics that show assigning fighters is a problem.



The Devs with friends should step back and look at what the changes made to suit their friends are doing to the rest of eve.

So you want a valid game mechanic nerfed because - you think it is unfair??
Had you won the fight would you be crying about how unfair assigning fighters is?

An Ishtar and Cynabal get blapped by a gang of 7 and because there were assigned fighters - it is unfair.
You sound like the kid in the sandbox who's castle just got kicked over by "the big kids".


Should smart bombing battleships also be nerfed 22 kills in 3 mins ? By your reasoning, yes. After all, he is kadeshi and you make a point about Kadeshi using valid tactics to win fights

As I said, Eve should not be about nerfing simply because a mechanic is seen as unfair by a few.
Put the tissues away and look at how you can counter the tactic. Scanning the NYX and forcing it to retreat into the pos is a good start. Bring more friends and start popping fighters is another. Ever heard of interceptors - They are Frigates that can scout . Crying to CCP about how unfair it is, should be the very last resort. And more than anything, shame on CCP for listening.

And yes a fighter can get the same tracking as a small electron blaster (with 3 scripted omnis) but it takes 10 to 12 times longer to lock a target as anything fit with electron blasters.
We roam nul regularly, have had encounters with assigned fighters but certainly are not whinging about losing to a valid game mechanic. What we did was looked for ways to counter the threat.
I suppose we could join the small group who would rather whine to CCP but that just seems childish and not in the sandbox nature of Eve, especially when there are many alternatives.

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Assigning fighters and bombers only needs to be modified so the ship assigning has to be within its drone control range of the ship the fighters or bombers are assigned to.

This is a terrible fix for sub-caps getting raped by assigned fighters and nano ships.

You are informed of HAC's getting blapped by fighters in 2 volleys and your fix is to give them an extra 10 seconds to live (given lock time is blanketed by travel time on-grid).

*golf clap*

Which, however, was the only issue with fighters, not their scan resolution.

Btw your inty scout will travel throught the system to see if there is a nyx on D-SCAN THEN ONLY HE WILL TRY TO TACKLE SOMETHING, WAHOW you SEEM TO be RELEVANT.

Then no everybody don't bring a 50 MAN FLEET TO ROAM.

So YES you're IRRELEVENT.

Stop talking pls.



That's what you're actually doing, you're pretty funny

If this mans logic and writing skills are by any means a reflection of his ingame ability... then no wonder he is so vocal against capital ships involved in sub-cap pew pew.

The sad part is that Devs could only see further nerfing carriers and supers as a fix. (there were better options but they would not have appeased as they weren't a direct nerf.)

Assigning fighters will get changed. All we can hope is the Dev in charge of "balancing" the fighter assign mechanic doesn't just take the "easy way out".

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**Suggestion**

To assign fighters or bombers, the assigning pilot must be within "his" (or her) drone control range.
This forces carrier and super pilots to be on grid, which can only be good for creating pew pew.

As for those who choose to jump without scouts. You will still get your butt kicked by assigned fighters.
BUT if you lift your game and use a scout, you may just get a capital kill on the boards.

So your suggestion (part of which already applies, fighters can't be assigned from inside a pos) is another round of nerfs rather than a fix that doesn't reduce a carriers capability further?
Simply changing the "fighter assign" mechanic to match "drone assist" (not in drone control range = not assigned) would be the best fix and would make carriers / supers 100% vulnerable to attack.