Crime & Punishment

Having to pay attention & constantly warp around until you find a suitable target is more mindless than pushing a button every 30 minutes then watching a movie. Classic Veers logic.

I'd love to see how you justify an action every twenty seconds or so, combined with multiboxing a scout, somehow being more "bot like" than one button press every twenty minutes in between watching Family Guy.




"new players" don't have the kind of money to get ripped off by that scam. That's the same nonsense as when people cry about how margin scams hurt "new players". When in fact genuinely new players don't have 800 milllion isk to buy into the scam in the first place.

It's nothing but foolish, lazy, entitled players whining about how they should have no risk of loss.

Classic Veers logic.



We are an honourable space guild & highly value new members. Also new players don't have anything worth taking even if we were one of those dishonourable space clans.

Telling the truth and applying logic is totally unfair. If you do that his baseless "think of the children" argument won't work.

If a newbie buys a PLEX in order to place a security deposit with a corporation without researching that corporation first, then that's gross stupidity on their part.

Some people are born victims.

I'm really surprised this thread is still going.

Veers... If I ran a massive organization like the goons, you bet I would use a scam for recruitment. The ones that fell for it would be considered too stupid to get in. Period. Alot of this game is meta. If you arent intelligent enough to apply some common sense to your play it isn't the game for you.

Once again...if you autopilot all over the place in a shuttle then you are a dingaling. All over the internet ganking, scamming, and unexpected chaos is mentioned with EVE. Its not exactly a secret.

If you want a game to hold your half and keep you safe while you accumulate massive amounts of currency then play WoW or one of the other many rehashed mmos that exist.

You say that people leave the game because of it's harshness, and some may, but 10x that many will leave if this becomes Teletubbies in space.

No harsher punishments need to incur, people need to quit being a wuss and realize the glory that is EVE.

It's not disinformation considering that new players buying plex are the minority amongst their peers. There are better ways for new players to make isk than dumping more money in to a game that they may not even be playing in a few months.

I managed to earn 500 mil in a month or so of mission running, and knew nothing about Goons, corporations, etc..... I would have been a prime candidate for scamming, and that's not how the game should work. Ditto with the margin scams.

Also....where is this disclaimer? The first hit i get is goonfleet.net which is a scam website.

Oh come on....I dislike Eve Uni as much as the next elite PvPer....but the are not some bot organization. They have a good repository of knowledge, and a lot of different campuses and activities. Is there a lot of lame hand holding? Sure. But it's still a much less toxic environment than the Goon scammers.

As a newbie, while you were still bumbling about in frigates and destroyers?

It's such a shame that you were never targeted by the Goons recruitment scam, the forums would have been better all round if you'd been driven out months ago.

That's how it does work, if you don't like it you can leave, make sure to close the door behind you.

Both scams rely on the victim to be dumb and/or greedy. "A fool and his money are soon parted" is as true in Eve as it is in the real world.

The search result may vary depending on your location, it's certainly the first result when using google.co.uk. FYI it's here