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The Research Race of YC116

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Guillome Renard
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#1 - 2014-10-07 15:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Guillome Renard
EDIT: Prior Reading: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/anomalous-materials/

Read that first, then comeback.


OUR STATS:

CCP Fozzie wrote:
Estimated score as of 12am EVE Time October 13th:


  • Amarr - 155,789

  • Caldari - 311,249

  • Gallente - 154,525

  • Minmatar - 167,726

  • FINAL #s PENDING @EVE VEGAS



FINAL Independent Total: 261,832 + 1.27B ISK (+~25,400 pts = 287,232 final tally, all-in) from 39 individual donors.


Original message:

Friends, fellow capsuleers. I am likely unknown to you.

I am a former instructor with EVE University and currently I am one of those who chooses to live in what has become known as "Wormhole Space".

I am also a participant and researcher with the Arek;Jaalan intiative.

Recently, each of the four empires has released statements that they are interested in certain components of Sleeper technology. Rest assured, these missives are part of the empires' own agendas. They have discovered something and they want you to deliver it fully into their hands. There are rewards to such patriotism, of course, and among these is a continuation of the empires' legacy: constant bloodshed and war.

Arek'Jaalan inspired in many of us the spirit of pure research, unfettered by nationalism and strategic goals. Whatever the empires are after, I believe - as I hope you come to believe - the truth belongs to all, and should be arrived at by all, free of the trappings of Us vs. Them.

I am, therefore, offering a fifth alternative.

I am seeking donations of the same items as the empires, with the intent that we assemble a single collection that vastly outstrips those gathered by the four empires. We, as capsuleers, can speak with our actions. Indeed, we have been asked to do so, but I say we should say unto these empires: Enough of your bickering.

I will accept these items on the same terms as the empires' agents: Item Exchange Contract to Guillome Renard. Originating station does not matter, though I would consider it a kindness if you could at least get these items to low-security space. Unlike the empires, I will be tracking all donations and will be acknowledging all contributions, no matter how small.

There are risks, and no doubt there will be a flurry of people decrying me as just one more scammer. Nothing I say can convince those who believe such things otherwise. If you believe me to be a scammer, do not donate. It's that simple.

In the event that we fail, donors will be compensated for their donations as the entire collection will be liquidated. Contracts created after October 14th will be rejected.

(OOC Follows)

Fellow players of EVE:

Once upon a time, there was a dialogue between players and devs called Arek'Jaalan. It was a way for players to take actions to steer revelations of the game's lore. You may not care about the lore, but you have to admit that this is kind of unprecedented, and awesome.

Then the staffer in charge was pulled from the project and it languished. AJ got me to resubscribe. It rekindled my interest in EVE; it was mission-like PvE content but it was unique and each project had the feel of something never before done. Consider this another (possibly vain) attempt to send a message to CCP.

I intend to amass the largest collection of the two blue-loot items sought by CCP as a statement: We want control of the lore back.

If we are successful, CCP can view this as an opportunity to re-engage in the dialogue with the players. The lore they're releasing can be altered to reflect our actions. CCP devs keep talking about how they love it when players do something unexpected? Let's do something they probably don't expect. This was foretold in their own chronicle (Anoikis, towards the end), that capsuleers would come to live in wormhole space, learn it's secrets, master the network, and eventually discover something there.

Let's start that journey.

One or two of four things will happen here:

(Most Likely) We fail: We don't get enough blue loot. In this instance I will take the blue loot to market(s) and sell it off, then send the ISK to the donors in proportion to their donation (EVE Online: Spreadsheets Are Magic). I'll still make note of who donated and make that public unless you comment in your contract that you'd rather be anonymous.

(Probably) We succeed, and CCP ignores us: They decide that because we didn't do it their way, we didn't do anything worth noting, someone else gets the credit, and I'm left with a massive pile of blue loot. IMO, shame on CCP for missing the opportunity but given recent trends this seems likely. Outcome is same as above: I sell the loot, send ISK back to the donors, and note the donors.

(Maybe) We succeed, and CCP steers the lore our way: We win, the tech comes out by some other means, and I make sure that donors get credit where it's due. The blue loot likely goes poof.

(And juuust maybe...) AJ gets revived: Long shot, they could've brought AJ back by now on their own, but perhaps this demonstration of player interest means we can get some attention to the player/dev interaction as a space for steering lore.

There are risks. You run the risk that I run off with your blue loot, and it will take me a lot more time to process donations than it would take CCP. My goal is to have everything about this concluded by the end of the month, either way.

Future Corps has an 'all ransoms honored' policy. I am considering any agreements pertaining to this stuff to be sacrosanct but you really only have my word. I will not be offended if you decide this is a scam, but please, let's keep the thread clear for serious discussion.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501

Kanzero
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#2 - 2014-10-07 15:31:47 UTC
Literally wat.
Guillome Renard
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#3 - 2014-10-07 15:46:56 UTC
Kanzero wrote:
Literally wat.


http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/anomalous-materials/

Edited to add more context.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501

Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
#4 - 2014-10-07 16:41:45 UTC
As someone who only learned of Arek'Jalaan after it faltered, and was extremely interested int what it had to offer the game, I wish you luck in this endeavor.
Des Jardin
Aperture Harmonics
#5 - 2014-10-07 17:44:52 UTC
As someone who still has an open Arek'Jalaan channel, I am interested and support this effort.

"Good against remotes is one thing.  Good against the living ... that's something else."

Seelen Jager
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-10-07 18:00:24 UTC
It would be really quite impressive if we can pull this off. You have my loot!
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#7 - 2014-10-07 18:05:37 UTC
A'J isn't getting reopened from what they said as they don't have any of the notes, though they may pick up a few things to run from it at some point, they left that possibility open. That said, since A'J being re-opened is the last & least objective, sounds a good attempt.
Of course, I do have one question. Given technically IC the Empires have trillions of people supporting them, how is this meant to be an effective research effort if we keep it all to ourselves? Since we only have ourselves and a few teams we hire, not 10,000 worlds of people all supporting us.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#8 - 2014-10-07 18:06:51 UTC
I support what you want to do, so I added you as the 5th official contact on the list of representatives in my news-article about this event: Empires seek capsuleer assistance in Sleeper research!

Lets hope we can pull it off!

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Guillome Renard
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#9 - 2014-10-07 20:10:38 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
A'J isn't getting reopened from what they said as they don't have any of the notes, though they may pick up a few things to run from it at some point, they left that possibility open. That said, since A'J being re-opened is the last & least objective, sounds a good attempt.
Of course, I do have one question. Given technically IC the Empires have trillions of people supporting them, how is this meant to be an effective research effort if we keep it all to ourselves? Since we only have ourselves and a few teams we hire, not 10,000 worlds of people all supporting us.


The A'J of old, no. But A'J represented something novel, and worthwhile in online gaming and ICly.

You raise a fair point that the empires have vastly more resources, but by gathering a large repository of libraries and databases, we gain the ability to be an honest broker, essentially launching a centralized, 'open source' data cache. One result of this could be that rather than one empire winning the race, we moot the race and all empires come to the same technology simultaneously, as would (I presume) the Serpentis and Angel Cartels and anyone else interested.

A'J, as a project, also has its own resources, though, remember.

Jandice Ymladris wrote:
I support what you want to do, so I added you as the 5th official contact on the list of representatives in my news-article about this event: Empires seek capsuleer assistance in Sleeper research!

Lets hope we can pull it off!


Thank you, this is exactly the kind of support that we will need as the empires already have a major head start in terms of visibility and publicity. One of the ways you can help this campaign is to spread the word. We have until Tuesday. I've taken the liberty of asking FCFTW's diplomatic corps to spread the word to the rest of the wormhole community, as wormholers have unique access to these items. Of course... these items are also the primary income source for wormholers so this will be interesting.

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2014-10-07 21:17:23 UTC
That makes sense, drawing the Empires together to pool research teams. Thanks :)
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Trigger Warnings
#11 - 2014-10-07 23:16:34 UTC
I wish you luck in your attempt to get a monogrammed space mankini.
Artemis Renard
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-10-08 05:12:40 UTC
Want to wish you luck on this because I'd really want to see CCP do more with the interactive lore of Eve. However, I mainly wanted to pipe in because I saw you and had to do a double take.

Both ex-uni members (who joined the uni within less than 2 months of each other)
Both in wormhole corps
Both wearing same vest
Both share same last name

Are... are you my evil twin?
Guillome Renard
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#13 - 2014-10-08 05:18:33 UTC
Artemis Renard wrote:
Want to wish you luck on this because I'd really want to see CCP do more with the interactive lore of Eve. However, I mainly wanted to pipe in because I saw you and had to do a double take.

Both ex-uni members (who joined the uni within less than 2 months of each other)
Both in wormhole corps
Both wearing same vest
Both share same last name

Are... are you my evil twin?


Do I have a goatee?

http://fcftw.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=662501

Artemis Renard
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-08 05:20:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Artemis Renard
Guillome Renard wrote:
Artemis Renard wrote:
Want to wish you luck on this because I'd really want to see CCP do more with the interactive lore of Eve. However, I mainly wanted to pipe in because I saw you and had to do a double take.

Both ex-uni members (who joined the uni within less than 2 months of each other)
Both in wormhole corps
Both wearing same vest
Both share same last name

Are... are you my evil twin?


Do I have a goatee?


No, but your hair does part on the right side while mine is parted on the left. I'm assuming that makes you the evil twin. I obviously have no basis to base my judgement on but it must be correct as I am clearly not evil.
per
Terpene Conglomerate
#15 - 2014-10-08 08:41:04 UTC
i really hope you succeed man
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#16 - 2014-10-08 09:26:11 UTC
This is a great initiative and I'd be happy to do what I can to support it. If nothing else, if it can encourage CCP to take a different approach to story-led live events than their recent attempts to shoehorn interested parties into big TiDi-plagued fleets, then it'd be a positive step regardless.
CCP Falcon
#17 - 2014-10-08 10:08:43 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
Back on the job after a long break since late summer of 2013 Big smile

Things have been so busy that the only thing the live events guys were really able to organize in a big way this year was the Caldari Navy Manhunt.

With the departure of CCP Eterne in June (Cry), I've managed to wrangle in CCP Logibro to be my partner in crime going forward (Bear). CCP Leeloo (Pirate) has also been assisting with planning recently.

Coupled with that the usual suspects are still working hard on live events too when they're not super busy with development work, CCP Delegate Zero (Cool), CCP Affinity (Twisted) and a number of others.

We've got some interesting stuff coming up toward Christmas, but in the same respect there's still a lot of planning and ironing out that needs to be done so we can't really go into great detail right now.

With regards to A'J, we're aware that you guys are super passionate about it, and we're well aware of how much player driven work went into it so far. In the same respect though, we're not in a position where we're just going to resurrect an arc for the sake of it. There needs to be meaning for us to do so, and it needs to fit with what's currently happening in the Universe.

There's a few loose ends that we'll eventually look at tying off, so stay tuned.

Smile

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Solecist Project
#18 - 2014-10-08 10:41:42 UTC
First to like the devpost! \o/ :D

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#19 - 2014-10-08 10:44:52 UTC
Artemis Renard wrote:
No, but your hair does part on the right side while mine is parted on the left. I'm assuming that makes you the evil twin. I obviously have no basis to base my judgement on but it must be correct as I am clearly not evil.

Maybe he's your long lost forgotten alt that crashed in a jungle and made it's way back into space? xD

Oh and to be on topic... I have several hundred neural network thingies! \o/

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Artemis Renard
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-10-08 11:08:11 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Artemis Renard wrote:
No, but your hair does part on the right side while mine is parted on the left. I'm assuming that makes you the evil twin. I obviously have no basis to base my judgement on but it must be correct as I am clearly not evil.

Maybe he's your long lost forgotten alt that crashed in a jungle and made it's way back into space? xD

Oh and to be on topic... I have several hundred neural network thingies! \o/


Quite possibly. When I saw this I was all like "oh **** now everyone is going to think I'm his alt or something". Seriously though, rock on Guillome I hope this is a stunning success.
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