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let's just say the freighter pilot is a lucky one and he play around 20.00-24.00 eve time

And the Mighty Bob give to you the W-Space ...

Use it as a short-cut for your log.

It is completly ok for small NS entities to contract intel to wh entities.

Most of the serious wh entities can give you bookmarks from a NS entry point to HS with all data needed (mass, duration, etc ...)

A new business incoming.

And piracy in wh

Suspense intensifies!

Instant travel from one side of EVE to the other has become an addictive drug.

These players will go through all the stages of loss when you take their drug away and then, if they still really want to play EVE, they'll adapt and overcome.

In the end we'll have a better nullsec for a time until the players learn how to game the new system and then more changes will be required. Lets hope these changes don't take five years next time.

Let's be clear: ANYTHING that changes the current power structure in EVE will be met with anger, hate and threats to unsub their 20 accounts. No plan you come up with will be fine with these players.


Keep the faith CCP. Keep the faith.

Also, announcing these changes one day after the Blue Donut put out their open letter on how THEY would like to have indestructible NPC areas near all their precious soon-to-be destructable assets is super funny. CCP be trollin hard.

These changes also screw capital builders.

At one stage I was actively building Moros, which I then jumped to the Forge region and sold 11 or so jumps from Jita on the market.

According to a quick fiddle with dotlan, under the 'new' mechanics, that would be EIGHT jumps, it would take DAYS to move a Moros what is currently a single mid-point just to sell it.

As of today, a Buyer may be willing to buy a capital ship that's not near his home, as he can get it back home, after this patch, no one will want to buy any capitals unless it's already exactly where they want it.

Even with the bonus on the Jumpfreighters and Rorquals jump fatigue, i think this cutting into the logistics hugely cause of the reduction to 5LJs.

This means additional cyno spots, cyno chars. So where a single person could do the logistics and transports before, you now need several people to get this going.

If you own all this space, it may be no trouble as you can fly the cyno char through gates to the next system and open the next cyno. But if you don't what then? Moving a warfleet with several people being part of it is one thing. But moving ships like JFs or Rorquals was usually a "1 man show". So limiting their jumpange will severly limit their usability. If it stays to a 1 man show, the JF can only move on to the next system every 19-24 hours, when the cyno char can jumpclone to the next cyno spot. So a route that could be done in a single jump in very short amout of time before, now suddenly needs a complete day or even longer if you need several jumps?


The "warfare" part of those changes may be great to change the power projection, yet the changes to the "civilian" sector of this are horrible.


What if you give the JFs and Rorqual a role bonus of a hugely improved jump distance instead? So they can jump the same distances as before, or maybe even further? So you may have a huge jump fatigue afterwards, but can shrug it off as you reach your goal in a single jump and can wait it out there? Or a combination of both.. improved range, and reduced fatigue, trying to balance it out in a good way?

lol ... Ok so how about you read the comments and see there is a lot of positive in here.

If CCP is really intent on slamming both Combat and Resource mobility in one stroke then it's about time we got tools to effectively provide for our alliances locally. The biggest barrier is minerals. It's just not profit or time effective to mine minerals at any kind of high scale in Null.

With the new 5LY limit preventing a Null mining wave from flooding empire, it might be time for some kind of Capital mining monstrosity to be implemented. Strictly for Null, has to siege in a belt making itself a nice target to offset the volume of ore it pulls in.
Give us that and another pass to look at mineral distribution and local manufacturing of useful scale might actually happen.

And the biggest whiner of all of EvE online is who??????

Not the high sec miner

Not the high sec carebear

Not the high sec wardec griefer

Not the low sec dude


It´s the nullbear!!!

Whenever they feel like their risk free pvp and giant blue doughnut is threatened they cry hard enough to cause a second biblical flooding, who will be the Noah this time to safe the faithful from this tsunami of tears.

These changes may make sense as part of your plans for changes to sov however I see no timescale for those sov changes. Nor do I see any concrete proposals regarding those changes

As things stand your changes to JFs are going to adversely affect small entities for an unspecified period of time with no apparent benefit to those small entities.

If that period of time is not exceptionally short (under 2 months) then you are going to lose a lot of the players you actually want to retain - ie people who aren't in major sov blocks already.

I played Eve before jump drives came in, before sov, before alliances & the overwhelming problem for ALL small entities who wished to move to null was getting enough "stuff" past the permacamped Empire->Null gates to actually gain a foothold in npc null, never mind sov null.

If you think the changes to JFs help newer/smaller corps then I'm afraid you are utterly delusional.