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O you know you want to catch a super jumping through a gate... just let this thought lift you up.

Grayscale, are you sure it's a good idea to have an exponentially increasing fatigue timer with only a linear decrease?

If I do 16 jumps I will have a 2.7 million years of fatigue, is that correct?

The fatigue timer should be capped at 15 minutes. It should not increase beyond that. This would be sufficient to prevent people crossing the map and you wouldn't have any "ruined" characters with multiple years of fatigue.

Even the pubbie gets it.

Therefore, I have decided to leave the game and convert.

Snip, Please avoid posts that are of religious nature. - ISD Atomic Dove

Do not fear Change My friend.. change is good.

Do you remember how to fly 5m sp rifters?

+1 for you my good man... Ill scout in my nag guys.

So I understand the idea here, some people might avoid a fight because they know theyre in jump range of someone's capital fleet, "screw this fight," they say, "It would be fun and we could probably take that other fleet but Im pretty sure theyre just going to drop caps on us...lets just go home instead..."

Lets assume that this definitely does happen at least some of the time.

Maybe there are better ways to combat this though?

-You want to avoid people jumping halfway across the universe onto a fight right? Why not make this jump timer be a sort of weapons timer instead. So a single short range jump incurs no penalty, but after jumping 50 LY youre going to need to wait 20 minutes before activating offensive/gang modules (or any modules at all perhaps).

-Youre trying to avoid lots of meaningless hot dropping and increase the number of sub-cap goodfites right? By utterly crushing peoples ability to do logisitics well youre going to decrease the number of fights we can have. No ships=no fights. Losing ships is now a serious consequence, not because of what they cost but because of how hard it is to get them. As an FC I wouldnt want to go into anything less than a sure thing because if we lose this fleet its going to be 2 weeks until we can field it again. Im going to avoid a lot of fights for that reason.

-Even if rorqs and JFs arent nerfed nearly as badly there are a lot of logistic considerations that are destroyed by nerfing carriers. Its not always practical to build every ship for a huge alliance in nullsec, sometimes you need to buy them and bring them in. Or move them after the fact.

-Another example: The Little Johnny Tables [LJTBL] alliance wants to move its staging point to a new area because it will mean lots of sweet fights. tons of great pew pew to be had. But they cant, its going to take them weeks to do it and in the time it takes them to move theyre going to be so weak at the destination that its going to be impractical to move. Before this patch they could have done most of this move in an afternoon by moving back and forth with a fleet of carriers but now its a logistical nightmare.


CCP, I love you guys, normally every change you come up with is great even if its going to sting a bit in the short term.

But PLEASE consider that this change is going to have a lot of consequences that I dont think youve planned for. Youre trying to get more fights but youre going to end up with less and you can accomplish the same goal in a variety of different ways. Please think twice about this change.

We hit MOA for reasons other than renters. In all likely hood, had you not been trying to drop in Dek and just hit renters, you might still have a home there. But as you couldn't control the urge to smack the beast on the nose, you then got bit, chewed and shat out.

A paranoid mind would argue that this is a pretty open attempt by CCP to milk as many account subscriptions as possible from their dwindling base. There is an awful lot of new cyno and capital ship alts required.