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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#81 - 2014-09-01 21:50:47 UTC
Every human have the same color under his skin. Its bloody red and very painfull to watch.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2014-09-01 21:53:53 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Every human have the same color under his skin. Its bloody red and very painfull to watch.

one one hand, quotes like this obfuscate the reality of realities of social power imbalances between races, but on the other hand this is phrased too perfectly to say anything against. everything about this is too good
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#83 - 2014-09-01 21:58:23 UTC
Silly fact of the day: "coconut" comes from the portuguese word "coco" which means "head", as that's what the coconut fruit ressembled to the first Portuguese who saw them.
Jarod Garamonde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2014-09-01 22:13:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
i understand why someone would be skeptical of a white heterosexual woman who has decided that the best way to contribute to combatting social injustice is soliciting money from people to talk about video games


Yes, because Sarkeesian is such a white name. She's ethnically Armenian. That's Middle-Eastern. You can tell just from looking at her she's not white.

Prolly think Italians are white, too, no?

wait, armenians aren't considered white? my dad never seemed to have a problem passing as a white guy in america, but i'll give her the benefit of the doubt and rescind my comment about her being a white lady.

i can't really comment on how white italians are considered because i'm not even the slightest bit italian, but i was under the impression that people of mediterranean and irish descent are generally classed as white in most pleas in america. then again, lots of subsets of "white" people are often not considered white enough by certain people. i'm sure someone out there would freak out about me being a filthy slav/armenian mutt

and she might not even be hetero, for all i know. but i feel like she'd make a point of it if she wasn't




Most people of Mediterranean descent don't consider themselves white. Especially not in the US, considering that Italians were once the most hated ethnicity in the country (even moreso than blacks, for a good half a century or more)... ESPECIALLY considering that to this day, it's still socially acceptable to make racist comments and stereotypes about my people.
Mediterranean includes Greeks, Spaniards, Turks, Portuguese, Monocans, and a few Middle-East ethnicities. Armenians are technically included in that.
Italians actually have more physically in common with Arabs and Persians than any white people, not to mention Italian culture is in complete odds with other European nationalities. We really should be legitimized as a separate racial category.

As for your other post, no, I didn't give her money. But I agree with most of the things she says. I'm not sure what that "subscription to Jezebel" comment is meant to do to me. Or is that some kind of stealth "gay" joke? Cuz, if so, you can stow that. I freely admit I'm not entirely straight.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Rain6637
NulzSec
#85 - 2014-09-01 22:28:40 UTC
Run, Nathaniel, Run!

dude! in over your head, in over your head!
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2014-09-01 22:29:21 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

Most people of Mediterranean descent don't consider themselves white. Especially not in the US, considering that Italians were once the most hated ethnicity in the country (even moreso than blacks, for a good half a century or more)... ESPECIALLY considering that to this day, it's still socially acceptable to make racist comments and stereotypes about my people.
Mediterranean includes Greeks, Spaniards, Turks, Portuguese, Monocans, and a few Middle-East ethnicities. Armenians are technically included in that.
Italians actually have more physically in common with Arabs and Persians than any white people, not to mention Italian culture is in complete odds with other European nationalities.

As for your other post, no, I didn't give her money. But I agree with most of the things she says. I'm not sure what that "subscription to Jezebel" comment is meant to do to me. Or is that some kind of stealth "gay" joke? Cuz, if so, you can stow that. I freely admit I'm not entirely straight.

mm, okay, i see. people of mediterranean descent aren't usually as addressed in mainstream discourse about racial prejudice, so i'm pretty ignorant about how they fit into the social hierarchy

jezebel is an internet journalism site that used to have lots of painfully liberal feminist articles(liberal as opposed to radical, not as opposed to conservative). i think they might have actually uncritically published an article about how giving oral sex to men was feminist. then again, i haven't really looked at it since middle school so they might have changed. also my stealth gay jokes are always coated with a heavy veneer of hypocrisy and self-loathing

there's nothing technically wrong with anything anita says. it's just all been said before, multiple times, by other people who were not demanding money to say things. of course, none of that excuses the reaction she's getting from gross gamebros

(my jezebel joke was going to be an autostraddle joke but i think they published an interview with one of my favorite game devs once so i felt kind of bad about it. and some of the articles are not so bad, if you don't mind them using the word qu**er constantly)
Jarod Garamonde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2014-09-01 22:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Rain6637 wrote:
Run, Nathaniel, Run!

dude! in over your head, in over your head!



No... no, it's not really like that. I'm not seeing him as an enemy. I just didn't fully like a few of the things he said. But, we're cool now.

Yes.... BTW, I am full-on tear extracting. I hate those basement dwelling derpists.
It's usually not entirely okay to use the "I have daughters" line as a justification why a man should be agreeing with feminism, but in this case, I feel I should mention it.... my oldest daughter likes "boy" games. She likes comic books. She likes cars. I'll be damned if I see her treated the way I see my female friends who are also into those things treated. I stand up for them, too.
I will say that I am no feminist. You don't need to be a feminist to agree with most of the things feminism says... the notion that women are people.
Kind of like how I don't call myself "colorblind" anymore, when it comes to race. I respect other cultures.... "whitewashing" is just as bad as actually being racist.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Rain6637
NulzSec
#88 - 2014-09-01 22:44:45 UTC
I want to participate, because it's a hot topic-ish. but this thread also strikes me as one that I should keep my arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times, and wear teflon.
Jarod Garamonde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2014-09-01 22:48:00 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
I want to participate, because it's a hot topic-ish. but this thread also strikes me as one that I should keep my arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times, and wear teflon.


Try Nomex, instead..... it's only a matter of time before the cishet neckbeards come with pitchforks and torches. For I have betrayed my gender and must be purified by pain.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Rain6637
NulzSec
#90 - 2014-09-01 22:55:51 UTC
I'm also curious to see if someone will manage to suck me in. but I doubt it. I don't know much about the situation, and only have a vague grasp of the who/what/where/why/when

...which pretty much means it's a matter of time, and i'm just playing ibtl chicken.
Nathaniel Raynaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2014-09-01 22:56:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathaniel Raynaud
Rain6637 wrote:
I want to participate, because it's a hot topic-ish. but this thread also strikes me as one that I should keep my arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times, and wear teflon.

go for it! this thread was designed to promote pain and rage, there's nothing left to do but abandon your scruples and indulge in the orgiastic bacchanalia of getting mad about vidya

Jarod Garamonde wrote:

No... no, it's not really like that. I'm not seeing him as an enemy. I just didn't fully like a few of the things he said. But, we're cool now.

Yes.... BTW, I am full-on tear extracting. I hate those basement dwelling derpists.
It's usually not entirely okay to use the "I have daughters" line as a justification why a man should be agreeing with feminism, but in this case, I feel I should mention it.... my oldest daughter likes "boy" games. She likes comic books. She likes cars. I'll be damned if I see her treated the way I see my female friends who are also into those things treated. I stand up for them, too.
I will say that I am no feminist. You don't need to be a feminist to agree with most of the things feminism says... the notion that women are people.
Kind of like how I don't call myself "colorblind" anymore, when it comes to race. I respect other cultures.... "whitewashing" is just as bad as actually being racist.

seeing a video game dad use words like "cishet" and "whitewashing" is so surreal... but kind of cool, really. do you mind if i ask why you don't call yourself a feminist? it seems like dudes calling themselves feminists is generally encouraged within most liberal activist circles
Jarod Garamonde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2014-09-01 23:03:51 UTC
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
[quote=Rain6637]
seeing a video game dad use words like "cishet" and "whitewashing" is so surreal... but kind of cool, really. do you mind if i ask why you don't call yourself a feminist? it seems like dudes calling themselves feminists is generally encouraged within most liberal activist circles


Welcome to the wonderful world of Dealing With Oddball Libertarians.
Neither Left, nor Right... just simply aware.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Clementina
The Scope
#93 - 2014-09-02 05:17:58 UTC
I don't take internet social justice warriors seriously. Any response to their words usually ends with them abusing their critics with slurs like neckbeard, virgin, basement dweller, gross nerd, loser, and insults against sexual orientations or races as though they are relevant to anything, and invocations to drink bleach or kill yourself.
I don't see how anything valuable can live under such a pile of rubbish.
Grimpak
Manufactorum.
#94 - 2014-09-02 06:05:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Oh wow, people just added racial issues here?
Just awesome guys. Hey, there's a building on fire there! Let's kill the fire with gasoline and gunpowder!



Just when I expected people would actually calm down and talk in a more rational manner, somebody fanned the flames even more.


Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Silly fact of the day: "coconut" comes from the portuguese word "coco" which means "head", as that's what the coconut fruit ressembled to the first Portuguese who saw them.


eh, actually I find that odd, because "coconut" translated to portuguese is "coco". "Head" translated in portuguese is "cabeça".

the name we gave to the coconut is actually related to mythology

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#95 - 2014-09-02 06:37:55 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Oh wow, people just added racial issues here?
Just awesome guys. Hey, there's a building on fire there! Let's kill the fire with gasoline and gunpowder!



Just when I expected people would actually calm down and talk in a more rational manner, somebody fanned the flames even more.


Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Silly fact of the day: "coconut" comes from the portuguese word "coco" which means "head", as that's what the coconut fruit ressembled to the first Portuguese who saw them.


eh, actually I find that odd, because "coconut" translated to portuguese is "coco". "Head" translated in portuguese is "cabeça".

the name we gave to the coconut is actually related to mythology


How to learn the right answer to a question:

step a, post a wrong answer on the internet
step b, wait
step c, success!

P
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#96 - 2014-09-02 06:47:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Nathaniel Raynaud wrote:
i understand why someone would be skeptical of a white heterosexual woman who has decided that the best way to contribute to combatting social injustice is soliciting money from people to talk about video games


Yes, because Sarkeesian is such a white name. She's ethnically Armenian. That's Middle-Eastern. You can tell just from looking at her she's not white.

Prolly think Italians are white, too, no?

wait, armenians aren't considered white? my dad never seemed to have a problem passing as a white guy in america, but i'll give her the benefit of the doubt and rescind my comment about her being a white lady.

i can't really comment on how white italians are considered because i'm not even the slightest bit italian, but i was under the impression that people of mediterranean and irish descent are generally classed as white in most pleas in america. then again, lots of subsets of "white" people are often not considered white enough by certain people. i'm sure someone out there would freak out about me being a filthy slav/armenian mutt

and she might not even be hetero, for all i know. but i feel like she'd make a point of it if she wasn't




Most people of Mediterranean descent don't consider themselves white. Especially not in the US, considering that Italians were once the most hated ethnicity in the country (even moreso than blacks, for a good half a century or more)... ESPECIALLY considering that to this day, it's still socially acceptable to make racist comments and stereotypes about my people.
Mediterranean includes Greeks, Spaniards, Turks, Portuguese, Monocans, and a few Middle-East ethnicities. Armenians are technically included in that.
Italians actually have more physically in common with Arabs and Persians than any white people, not to mention Italian culture is in complete odds with other European nationalities. We really should be legitimized as a separate racial category.(...).


What is considered white in the USA is not the same as in Europe.

Which is exactly what happens with the Sarkeesian/whatshername issue, which may be a hot topic in the USA, but is pure bullshit in Europe.
Grimpak
Manufactorum.
#97 - 2014-09-02 07:07:50 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


What is considered white in the USA is not the same as in Europe.

Which is exactly what happens with the Sarkeesian/whatshername issue, which may be a hot topic in the USA, but is pure bullshit in Europe.



Pretty much.
Nevertheless, the issues raised are valid ones. The way these issues are propped up however, it hints more as self-serving and attention-seeking than actually raising awareness to the issues themselves.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#98 - 2014-09-02 07:21:14 UTC
After having read this through, I have absolutely zero clue why it's not locked yet, or a day or more ago.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Rain6637
NulzSec
#99 - 2014-09-02 07:41:37 UTC
cuz it's a party, yo! the roof, the roof, the roof is on fiya

we don't need no water let the mother burn

[what isn't reported isn't locked, methinks]
ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#100 - 2014-09-02 10:42:44 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
After having read this through, I have absolutely zero clue why it's not locked yet, or a day or more ago.


I concur. Thread locked. This started off bad, continued bad, and somehow ended worse. Next thread, please be respectful of each other, lower the troll, and increase the constructiveness.

Thanks!

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