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You can do regular L4 missions in a frigate also in low sec. Just assign fighters to it and hover around the docking range keeping one eye on your carrier so it does not get bumped off.

Have you read the dev post properly? Then you would have realized that you don't, and instead only need to fly around a little bit.

With proper blitz standings (like my 9 point something Gallente Faction Standing). Hundreds



It have to be a super huge drop to matter.



The way I do it is I have 3 characters with high standings. I blitz with 2 and when an agent gets to the cut off (-2.00), i mission with the third toon (or a corp mate), they share standings, get me back above -2.00. After i get back above -2.00I might spend a weekend getting that agent's standings back up high via normal mission running. Then it's back to blitzing.

The key is the faction standing. Faction standing gives you access to ALL lvl 4 agents of that faction after a certain point, so I mission for corps with a lot of lvl 4 agents and ping-pong my back side off among them, only having to repair single agent standings every once in a while.

Hell, i've been known to pay a corp mate (who doesn't blitz and who does damn little else in EVE but mission run) to keep me fleeted up when while he does missions when i sleep (damn Aussies), i wake up the next day with isk, LP, and repair agent standings, (of course the isk I give him compensates him for it all).



As in poke,r luck has nothing to do with it if you know what you are doing lol.

The problem here is the age old problem of EVE PVE. CCP keeps taking new content into an old system and it just doesn't work. 'pro' mission runners are already figuring out how to exploit the hell out of this the exact same way people did (in very short time) with Incursions, Wormhole PVE and Faction Warfare. It would take a super massive overhaul of the way standings work to prevent the potential problem.


~What I would do~


The new missions should be stand alone content with cool down timers AND (and this is the important part) wormhole pve like escalation mechanics. The cool down timer is obvious, but the need for the escalation mechanic is because of alts. With 4 accounts I could still do 4 of these every 4 hours (if there was a 4 hour cool down time). people would realize this and Burner farming with legions of alts would make what happens in high sec incursions seem reasonable lol.

The escalation mechanic would be a great help. For every frig you bring (whether alt of player), another super powerful npc frig spawns, BUT (for balance sake) only 1 npc frig would have even a chance of dropping nice loot.

Meaning, sure, bring your 50 man frig fleet of insta-poppage, the mission will spawn 50 powerful and identical npc frigs but only ONE of them could have a nice loot drop and you'll never know which one it is before hand. You couldn't even pop all of them to find the one wreck with loot because I'd make it where each one drops at least 1 metal scrap lol.

That's what i'd do at least, as presented, these 'Burner' missions are going to be supremely farmable by people like me. Imagine that Station in Curse that has like 5 or 6 lvl 4 agents in 1 station, a few guys with super high Angel Standings could drop the price of machariels down to 250 mil each lol. Null alliances would be flying Mach Doctrines in a week LOL.

Dude, I've run something like 1,400 Level 4s. I will certainly swap to a frigate to run those *new* missions if the pay is worth the time and they spawn in hisec.

The same 2 to 3 accounts can be used to blitz regular Lev 4 missions. If it's worth it or not depends on the PLEX price and the number of play-hours one has in month. That is assuming these accounts are used only and only for L4 missions - in real EVE they can do various things so I believe most people that play EVE longer term have 2 or more accounts.

The full EVE experience starts with 2 accounts.

ECM works. Generally rats have fairly high sensor strength on any rats worth ECMing (sleepers and incursion rats with particularly nasty EWAR).
NOS as it currently works will give you full cap again.
The only differences between sleeper/incursion AI and current rat AI is how high its turned up, and mostly this difference is in how multiple ships aggro and apply EWAR to mutliple ships. In a 1v1 these AIs would function very similarly.

Make them send the pilots engaging them suspect.

Win.

Another solution is to do rounds among a bunch of level 4 mission agents. That should work too. Granted, the individual LP pools will grow slower, but that only means you need more patience.

Faction standings. e.g. State standings give you access to all the mission agents in an empire. All security agents give missions from the same mission pool. in just one constellation you could find several security agents, and the idea of bugging security agents until you found a burner was a good idea. especially if you're in a frigate anyway, you could spend your 4 hour mission decline timer going around to all the security agents in an empire.

So despite all of the posts about "different demographics, level 4 runners won't even want to do this" I haven't seen a single post in this thread from a level 4 runner saying that.

Instead there's a great number of people that seem very concerned for our welfare, and think the poor level 4 runners would be better off never having to see these missions at all.

I run level 4 missions and I will do these too, as will any mission runner that likes money. Low-sec has had plenty of things added to it over the past few years, FW revamp, crimewatch, clone soldier tags, mordus NPCs, the mordu gurista site that drops all kinds of new modules, the new thukker assembly arrays. This is the first thing that has been added to L4 missions in ages, so can the "please delete from regular pool and add to lowsec only agents" posters kindly **** OFF AND DIE (in-game, not irl)