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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#961 - 2014-08-02 10:45:27 UTC
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.

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Loki106
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#962 - 2014-08-02 11:05:31 UTC
Again you're wrong gevlon, even the goons have to join fleets or get kicked... and I know it's difficult to check a few corporations and see who is recruiting. You know what? I will make a list of the corporations in goonswarm fed that are open recruiting right now. 1. Wildly Inapproriate 2. Enlightened Industries 3. Eternity Inc. 4. We are not bad. Just unlucky 5. Sundering. 6. Les chevaliers de l'ordre 7. ICE is Coming to EVE 8. Raging Ducks 9. NED-clan 10. Valar Morghulis. If you tried all of these and you didn't got accepted you're probally incompetent and have to compensate that with high sec wardecs?
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#963 - 2014-08-02 11:08:06 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.


Just pay 10bux and voila.
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#964 - 2014-08-02 11:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkady Romanov
Loki106 wrote:
Again you're wrong gevlon, even the goons have to join fleets or get kicked... and I know it's difficult to check a few corporations and see who is recruiting. You know what? I will make a list of the corporations in goonswarm fed that are open recruiting right now. 1. Wildly Inapproriate 2. Enlightened Industries 3. Eternity Inc. 4. We are not bad. Just unlucky 5. Sundering. 6. Les chevaliers de l'ordre 7. ICE is Coming to EVE 8. Raging Ducks 9. NED-clan 10. Valar Morghulis. If you tried all of these and you didn't got accepted you're probally incompetent and have to compensate that with high sec wardecs?



He is talking about the corporation GoonWaffe, not the alliance Goonswarm Federation, and he is half correct in that in GoonWaffe we do not have mandatory fleet participation.

It does ignore the fact that GoonWaffe members do many other things, including alliance logistics however.

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Pete Butcher
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#965 - 2014-08-02 11:15:43 UTC
Arkady Romanov wrote:
Loki106 wrote:
Again you're wrong gevlon, even the goons have to join fleets or get kicked... and I know it's difficult to check a few corporations and see who is recruiting. You know what? I will make a list of the corporations in goonswarm fed that are open recruiting right now. 1. Wildly Inapproriate 2. Enlightened Industries 3. Eternity Inc. 4. We are not bad. Just unlucky 5. Sundering. 6. Les chevaliers de l'ordre 7. ICE is Coming to EVE 8. Raging Ducks 9. NED-clan 10. Valar Morghulis. If you tried all of these and you didn't got accepted you're probally incompetent and have to compensate that with high sec wardecs?



He is talking about the corporation GoonWaffe, not the alliance Goonswarm Federation, and he is half correct in that in GoonWaffe we do not have mandatory fleet participation.

It does ignore the fact that GoonWaffe members do many other things, including alliance logistics however.


Oh come on, it's obvious Gevlon knows about your corporation better than you - a member. Despite he never was a member himself; never was in the alliance; never was in the coalition and doesn't even live in null.
Like I said - obvious.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#966 - 2014-08-02 14:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.

Khanh'rhh wrote:
it's objectively not even the best member corp to join; we only got 2x reimbursement this year, other corps have done it for longer. Most of GW's ratting taxes are used to pay for alliance and coalition level costs, whereas member corps and allied alliances can do as they please.

Of course, this doesn't fit his butthurt narrative of masters / pets, grrrEVIL, etc, so he ignores it.

[...]

What gets me is all this is public information, and publicly verifiable, too. Very basic Google-searches would show he's talking nonsense. That someone can get this worked up over what is essentially doubling down on his own misconceptions, to the level where he spends a large portion of his life on it, is a clear sign of mental illness. No trolling.


Yeah, pretty clear you were just going to ignore easily verifiable facts to the contrary and just keep parroting the same nonsense that, in all honesty now, got thoroughly disproven a couple of years ago.

I mean, even if you look at just our pap-link stats, you will see Goonwaffe itself clicks more paplinks per-person than a good number of allied corps / alliances, and that's not an issue. Not to mention GSOL are responsible for maintaining the infrastructure of the whole coalition, and they are almost exclusively Waffe.

But according to Gevlon's made up stats, based on third party data, not verified by asking a single logical question as to the veracity of said figures, and compounded by assumptions stacked on assumptions, we just rat.

It's been .. what, ~7 months now that you've been grinding dozens of hours a week, and giving all your income to try to 'destroy' us.

A conservative estimate would put your effort to date at around 500-700 hours. We've basically stolen 500-700hours of your life. Your actual, real, life - and we didn't need to lift a finger to do it. That's an awesome achievement. Goonswarm's legacy isn't in sov, or ISK, but in the actual real people who have gone completely insane as a result of us being around.

You've made your life about videogames, and your existence in videogames about us.

Ruining your game life, indeed.

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Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#967 - 2014-08-02 14:46:34 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.

You say that as if ratting all day was more enjoyable than joining fleets. I think I see why you don't live in null now.
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#968 - 2014-08-02 14:49:40 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
A conservative estimate would put your effort to date at around 500-700 hours. We've basically stolen 500-700hours of your life. Your actual, real, life - and we didn't need to lift a finger to do it. That's an awesome achievement. Goonswarm's legacy isn't in sov, or ISK, but in the actual real people who have gone completely insane as a result of us being around.

You've made your life about videogames, and your existence in videogames about us.

Ruining your game life, indeed.



I had never thought of it in those terms before. It makes me very happy. Thanks Gevlon!

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Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#969 - 2014-08-02 17:02:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Voyager Arran
When you're reading Gevlon and Xenuria posts, it's important to keep in mind that while they are completely obsessed with us, they are forced to work from an outsider's perspective because they are so staggeringly socially inept that they can't even get a line-member level spy in to interact with us. Common knowledge and little things we take for granted every day like the interactions between CFC members from different alliances (which is to say that, for the most part, nobody cares what Alliance you're from until we try to go ganking with an FCON member in fleet) are completely foreign and unknown to them, which is why we end up having arguments about basic facts.

Frankly, "not being able to get a spy into the CFC" is a bit of an achievement all by itself since overall we're maybe a notch above BRAVE in terms of internal security.
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#970 - 2014-08-04 12:52:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alp Khan
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.


Not if you were the last player in EVE, Gevlon.

I never thought you'd be a wardeccer because highsec is so passe.
But today, if you think that we don't know about depression and emotional pain,
You're insane, or you're a fool who hasn't paid attention to a word that we say.
In a way, I can't help but feel responsible, I always knew that you were insane
With your pain, but I never thought you'd be a wardeccer because highsec is so passe, hey.


So passe nowadays.
You never thought you'd get rejected, just be cooler in an obvious way
I could say, shouldn't you have got a couple more WoW accounts and decided maybe that you won the game,
In a way, I can't help but feel responsible, I always knew that you were insane
With your pain, but I never thought you'd be a wardeccer because highsec is so passe, hey.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#971 - 2014-08-04 13:23:28 UTC
Titan!

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#972 - 2014-08-04 15:30:56 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.


Just pay 10bux and voila.


People like that stand out like a sore thumb & generally get rejected multiple times anyway.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#973 - 2014-08-04 15:32:06 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.


You like percentages right? By percentage, more Goonwaffe people click paplinks than any other corp in the CFC.

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RAIN Arthie
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#974 - 2014-08-04 16:23:10 UTC
When goons lose titan they blame tidi and get it all back... waka waka.
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#975 - 2014-08-04 18:12:02 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
When goons lose titan they blame tidi and get it all back... waka waka.


wat
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#976 - 2014-08-04 23:23:08 UTC
RAIN Arthie wrote:
When goons lose titan they blame tidi and get it all back... waka waka.


When people regularly visit IRC space looking for kills, the alliance falls apart... waka waka.

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Loki106
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#977 - 2014-08-05 07:16:27 UTC
:titan:
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#978 - 2014-08-05 08:05:56 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The problem isn't that it's hard to get into the CFC, it's easy.
The problem is that you can only get into a paplink-clicking minion corp/alliance, while pure blood Goons can rat all day on the land captured by their minions without ever fleeting up.


You like percentages right? By percentage, more Goonwaffe people click paplinks than any other corp in the CFC.


The Goon speaks truth, google "Pap Link" / "Paplinks" and Goons result front page. Also, Pap links, what are they and how do I click more of them.

And almost page 50, you guys - WTH!? I bet you're all one of them dastardly "socials".

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Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#979 - 2014-08-05 08:07:50 UTC
It would have been more, but it's been periodically gutted of all the best stuff.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#980 - 2014-08-05 09:40:08 UTC
Kaea Astridsson wrote:
The Goon speaks truth, google "Pap Link" / "Paplinks" and Goons result front page. Also, Pap links, what are they and how do I click more of them.
Pap links are just the way that most of the CFC measures participation. Clicking a paplink in a fleet logs where you were and what you are in, so the leadership can see who's turning up to what and in what. They use those to see what type of numbers we can pull for what type of ops, see if a group is under-performing and to work out what split of reward each group will get. Alliances and even coprs also use the stats to further sub-divide rewards. Some corps will pay per pap and/or reward people for being most active and such.

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