EVE General Discussion

My new CRT in 2000 had 1600x1200, the old one in '96 1280x960.. I really don't want to feel the CRT era again in 2011, sorry


Of course I'd like a nice shiny fully customizable ui like in WoW where you can choose whichever you font like, and in general adjust every pixel in UI for your liking.

Fat chance CCP doing that though. The UI is still basically what it was in 2003.

You can please everyone, just like they did with ship spinning. It just takes a bit of effort.

I am glad you didn't care, but I could care less about you.

Dear CCP,
i knew you would screw the UI and font stuff right the moment it got public that there's going to be a change although i admit it must have been a pain in da a** job to implement such a beast. You contradicted a scalable font rendering system in a way i thought was never possible. Think a moment about what was intended and what you've done:

• font (style) not selectable
• not any size adjustable
• font size not effective on all texts
• font spacing is ... ehrm spacious! ... & not adjustable!

Well for b) a size of 50% or 300% may not seem plausible but it's a user decision not a developer decision to use such a size. User may decide if it's readable or not. For c) it just doesn't make any sense to adjust font size on tabs & titles only and everything else is left as it is.
It seems to be a CCP tradition to implement such things half baken and then taking away the most important options from being user adjustable. Now i'm left with a scalable font rendering and a font which is too big for my taste. Skill window looks penetrated same goes for market which is more usable with a small font showing a lot of orders.
No offense, just constructive criticism. Hate it, love it but don't ignore it.

So...is this the post where you go to complain about the font ? :)

I'm not saying that the old one had no problems. But this correction is certainly not an improvement.

At 'low res' it's terrible. It does get indeed a bit better when you improve your screen resolution. But that one was set on a level that I found best for me. Why should I need to increase that for a game?

From the specs : "The minimum screen resolution for EVE is 1024x768." So there should have been atleast an effort to make it look nice at that resolution.

I suggest that DEV that has made this, is forced to work at that resolution for all her work for the next year. Stop spoiling them by giving them super high res stuff.

And why management allowed a font change at this time is incomprehensible. You went flat on your face with the previous expansion. This one should lure players back. And you think something as controversial as a font change will do that? You can't win with that. No one start playing again because there is a new font. People do get obset because there is a new font. Or is this a non documented spec increase. Which is always nice to introduce when subscriptions are going down. right?

new font is almost as bad as my own handwriting and that's an achievement on its own.

now i'm not saying the old font wasn't bad, i never had any issues with it my self but that's because i have good eyes and liked it being small.

we've gone from bad to bad. CCP needs to implement a way of changing font.

I like the new font, I can read it :)

you tally up the pros and cons of the new font the result is NOT THAT BAD CHILL DUDERS

post like these are annoying as ****.

LAPTOPS DON'T HAVE ******* 100 INCH SCREENS AND BILLIONS OF ******* PIXELS ON THEM, GET OF YOUR HIGH HORSE

After playing Eve for a few days and adjusting to the new font I have to say it doesn't bother me as much as in the first couple of days. It was a deal breaker for me when it was just released and I didn't hesitate to post all my negative thoughts.

Here is an update on my observations:

-New font is in fact has better readability properties in some instances, but due to extreme variations in UI scaling & lack of polishing this is easily obscured. For example from small to medium to large this font look like 3 different fonts. Look at scanner interface tabs they just look ridiculous they are so small and don't scale well.

-Either a real crappy job at UI implementation was done or the font just doesn't scale well and needs more work.

-CCP has posted that they had a choice between futuristic vs readable font. Just for my own interest I peeked at adobe fonts (they have a big database) and I see what CCP meant by this. Futuristic and readability don't blend well. So they made a choice out of good intentions, they just need to finish the job - may not be as easy as it sounds but needs to happen.

-My comment that this font looks old from when the computers just were invented still holds, but if this gives users better readability and CCP is willing to make some improvements to make this font look better and scale better I don't see why not.

-Visual adjustment issues to all UI different font scaling has improved just by getting used to it for a few days.

my new grades on a scale of 1 to 10.

New font with small letters 3 out of 10.
Medium size font design 4 out of 10
Medium size font readability 8 out of 10 <--this is good and I this is for items in overview.
Large size font - I won't even grade

Try typing a sentence and continue it with a numbers, I'd like to see the numbers to look like part of the same font - not something different.

System names and security at top left corner look amateurish - different font sizes, some are bold, security number jump out out of line - This maybe because the font doesn't scale well, so some uniformity is due. If you made sec number the same as system name it would already be much better.