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All BRAVE API Keys

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Setantii
Conquistador.
#81 - 2014-04-19 23:03:29 UTC
Wouldn't it have been far better to keep quiet and try to sell all the api's to potential enemies of Brave? Then their assets could have been spied on indefinitely. Surely it would have netted him a decent payout?

Instead this joker just leaks them on the internet so they'll all be obsolete within a few days when people change them.
Kathao Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2014-04-20 00:43:41 UTC
Watching pubbies trying to get important is my lifeblood.

Also, BRAVE should stay away from playing the meta game.
Anh Emarious
Diplomatic-Incident
#83 - 2014-04-20 04:37:48 UTC
Kathao Crendraven wrote:
Watching pubbies trying to get important is my lifeblood.

Also, BRAVE should stay away from playing the meta game.



Didn't people used to say that about Goons?
Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#84 - 2014-04-20 11:38:09 UTC
Black Bart Pirate wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
Demeisen Atreides wrote:
Proletariat Tingtango wrote:
The best part of this thread is where the guy from TEST tried to take some kind of moral highground when they are the precise and direct cause of all of BRAVE's problems up to this point. The OP is a symptom, You are part of the cause, faceless TEST diplomat.


TOPLELM88888888

Also >inb4mittaniarticlefullofspin


TMC article. Please find the "spin" to send your spergs to cry over.

http://themittani.com/news/brave-it-infrastructure-shut-down


Okay, here's how I understand it (not speaking for BRAVE, but maybe in the know a bit more than some).

In BRAVE, the "CNM", or council of newbie management (our mini CSM because we like to try democracy and such, cause why not), elections are coming up. Draleth wanted to run, apparently expecting everyone to have forgotten how much drama he caused and embrace his "contributions" (an auth system that did nothing to keep out spies, a jabber system that was continuously down, massive drama posts and an attempt to discredit basically everyone who wasn't him or his friends) to the alliance. However (again, what I heard as of today), basically Draleth was told that he wasn't part of the "accepted candidate list" for the CNM for whatever reason. Considering that last time he didn't get his way with leadership he basically rage quit his leadership position (leading him here in the first place lol), this is more or less what I expected out of him.

"Today's sudden shutdown is likely attributed to a perceived failure on the part of of BRAVE's leadership to act reasonably and in a cooperative manner. Sources describe their behavior instead as "lording their positions over the membership and literally laughing in their faces when confronted with issues."

The "sources" is most likely... Draleth, who was well known for being one of the most aloof, unapproachable, and haughty members of leadership. Also, he basically singlehandedly prevented cooperation within BRAVE leadership until he stepped down, and after he stepped down HERO was able to organize and strike a deal that has lead to a large gain in SOV systems.

"According to Draleth, Matias replied that BRAVE's experiment in nullsec sov warfare took precedent over "leadership dysfunctionality" and that leaders within BRAVE will need to overcome their differences for the benefit of the alliance."

I don't really know if this is spin or not, but basically it reinforces the idea that Draleth refused to cooperate and overcome differences, as any leadership group has to, because... reasons?

"Despite stepping down amidst a strained relationship with BRAVE's leadership several weeks ago,"

I think this needs a bit more info. Basically, Draleth rage quit his leadership position because the rest of the BRAVE leadership refused to let him and his 2 friends create a "triumvirate" that would give them near total control of BRAVE. This, combined with the removal of his director roles (thank god for that, he could have actually done damage instead of inconveniencing all of us for ~45 minutes), most likely lead to a very stupid and ill-planned departure from the exact positions he wanted himself in. When he realized his mistake, he tried to worm his way back into leadership. After learning that he wouldn't be allowed back in (probably due to the previous drama) the events of today happened.

TL:DR, u spin me right round baby right round



And the number three of the triumvirate has retained his position within BNI. An insane oversight by BNI leadership if you ask me.
Bumsicle Wedgie
Doomheim
#85 - 2014-04-20 15:32:50 UTC
Did someone get upset and leak personal spaceship information again?

O rite.

In other news, some Goons did some bad stuff and -A- is sh*t yo?

More later. Probably.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#86 - 2014-04-20 17:11:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph IX Basarab
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
And the number three of the triumvirate has retained his position within BNI. An insane oversight by BNI leadership if you ask me.


It's unfortunate but hopefully the leadership will learn from their past mistakes.

Edit: Nevermind.
Black Bart Pirate
BURN EDEN
No Therapy
#87 - 2014-04-21 05:24:38 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
And the number three of the triumvirate has retained his position within BNI. An insane oversight by BNI leadership if you ask me.


It's unfortunate but hopefully the leadership will learn from their past mistakes.

Edit: Nevermind.


If you are talking about Nonnak or w/e, afaik not only does he not have a position (besides being a member of BNI), but he never was given one. Basically, when Draleth tried to appoint him as Diplo, Lychton said something to the effect of "you can't appoint people, that's not your privilege". Additionally, the dude is no longer in BRAVE, though I don't know if it's due to his own choice or if he was removed. Draleth has also been removed from BRAVE, and our systems are back online. Mission accomplished!
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#88 - 2014-04-21 07:05:53 UTC
Black Bart Pirate wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
And the number three of the triumvirate has retained his position within BNI. An insane oversight by BNI leadership if you ask me.


It's unfortunate but hopefully the leadership will learn from their past mistakes.

Edit: Nevermind.


If you are talking about Nonnak or w/e, afaik not only does he not have a position (besides being a member of BNI), but he never was given one. Basically, when Draleth tried to appoint him as Diplo, Lychton said something to the effect of "you can't appoint people, that's not your privilege". Additionally, the dude is no longer in BRAVE, though I don't know if it's due to his own choice or if he was removed. Draleth has also been removed from BRAVE, and our systems are back online. Mission accomplished!


Actually he's still listed as a diplo.
Black Bart Pirate
BURN EDEN
No Therapy
#89 - 2014-04-21 11:25:51 UTC
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Black Bart Pirate wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
And the number three of the triumvirate has retained his position within BNI. An insane oversight by BNI leadership if you ask me.


It's unfortunate but hopefully the leadership will learn from their past mistakes.

Edit: Nevermind.


If you are talking about Nonnak or w/e, afaik not only does he not have a position (besides being a member of BNI), but he never was given one. Basically, when Draleth tried to appoint him as Diplo, Lychton said something to the effect of "you can't appoint people, that's not your privilege". Additionally, the dude is no longer in BRAVE, though I don't know if it's due to his own choice or if he was removed. Draleth has also been removed from BRAVE, and our systems are back online. Mission accomplished!


Actually he's still listed as a diplo.


I may be wrong, but not being in the alliance might make it hard to diplo :D
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#90 - 2014-04-21 18:50:05 UTC
Black Bart Pirate wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Black Bart Pirate wrote:
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:
Nicolai Serkanner wrote:
And the number three of the triumvirate has retained his position within BNI. An insane oversight by BNI leadership if you ask me.


It's unfortunate but hopefully the leadership will learn from their past mistakes.

Edit: Nevermind.


If you are talking about Nonnak or w/e, afaik not only does he not have a position (besides being a member of BNI), but he never was given one. Basically, when Draleth tried to appoint him as Diplo, Lychton said something to the effect of "you can't appoint people, that's not your privilege". Additionally, the dude is no longer in BRAVE, though I don't know if it's due to his own choice or if he was removed. Draleth has also been removed from BRAVE, and our systems are back online. Mission accomplished!


Actually he's still listed as a diplo.


I may be wrong, but not being in the alliance might make it hard to diplo :D



I know, but you stated that he had "never been given a position" when clearly that is not the case. He did have a position.
Nonnak Severin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2014-04-21 19:47:34 UTC
Mission was accomplished, cash received, and I left on good terms with everyone who mattered.

The decision-making portions of BRAVE were wonderful to work with. I had a good time interacting with them.

Armchair general action from line members is understandable but unfortunate. Incidents like this API leak indicate that BRAVE's tenure in Catch will be fun for everyone involved.
Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#92 - 2014-04-22 18:42:27 UTC
Nonnak Severin wrote:
Mission was accomplished, cash received, and I left on good terms with everyone who mattered.

The decision-making portions of BRAVE were wonderful to work with. I had a good time interacting with them.

Armchair general action from line members is understandable but unfortunate. Incidents like this API leak indicate that BRAVE's tenure in Catch will be fun for everyone involved.



There was no mission and there was no cash. Roleplaying forum is that way >>>
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#93 - 2014-04-22 20:22:15 UTC
Faceless Enemy wrote:


This is hilarious. 1/3 of the entire list has no alliance.

Stay Brave, BNI. This is your initial nulsec meta-game hazing.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Nicolai Serkanner
Incredible.
Brave Collective
#94 - 2014-05-03 23:02:35 UTC
Nonnak Severin wrote:
and I left on good terms with everyone who mattered.



Keep dreaming