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Dev Blog: CSM8 - Second Summit Minutes

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CCP Dolan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2014-04-04 16:56:22 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
Check out the Summit Minutes from CSM8's January Summit as well as the new official CSM logo! You can find all the CSM'y goodness here.

Feel free to leave your feedback on the minutes (or logo) in this thread.

CCP Dolan | Community Representative

Twitter: @CCPDolan

Gooby pls

MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#2 - 2014-04-04 17:03:27 UTC  |  Edited by: MailDeadDrop
Regarding ship skins, I know that the current crop of 8 or 9 ship skins are done to test the waters. Can you (or someone) tell us when CCP plans to evaluate the success of that test? Will there be a devblog about it?

MDD
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2014-04-04 17:08:19 UTC
Friday read

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SeneschaI
Ordo Arcana
Exxitium
#4 - 2014-04-04 17:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: SeneschaI
finally! yay!
"Session 16" wrote:
Xhagen threw out a question to the CSM regarding the differences between corporation
mechanics and the social aspect of corporations.
Not as much 'differences' as 'handicaps' (mechanics that are beta programming dinosaurs) crippling the social aspects of corporations to the point where the CSM blindly agreed there's a "difference" between npc and player corps.

Really? The comparison shouldn't by all rights even be in the same ballpark as an NPC corp. Makes you wonder how much reflection bitter vets have for the blinkered view they acquire.

The fact the question elicited comments about NPC corps being comparable is proof positive people aren't looking at solutions beyond bandaids. The system is horrible. the fact that Xhagen's question provoked tepid response is horrifying to me and everyone who's been a CEO who at least tries to give power to the people (not just greedily hoard them for the directors/ceo as is the wont of the current overly complex, full of loopholes, paranoiac surrealistic nightmare mechanics)

The actual response to Xhagen's question should have been a resounded "There's a vast gulf!"
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2014-04-04 17:34:38 UTC
Is it 2015 already? Twisted
Intex Encapor
#6 - 2014-04-04 17:38:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Intex Encapor
as expected nullsec wont get love anytime soon

Quote:
Implementation on a full replacement for starbases has not started, but there is design work on-going.

thats rather sad too
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-04-04 17:41:28 UTC
There is only one true CSM logo. Twisted

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery

Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#8 - 2014-04-04 17:52:42 UTC
No mention of high-res textures that I saw... and that got up to what, 100+ pages in unanimous support?
Grarr Dexx
The Congregation
420 MLG TWINTURBO 3000 EMPIRE ALLIANCE RELOADED
#9 - 2014-04-04 17:56:54 UTC
Low-sec mentioned twice, and not once to admit it's **** space. Good to see not even the CSM gives a ****!
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-04-04 17:57:03 UTC
I assume that, per tradition, things like "this section will be made available when..." such are a joke and those sections will actually be released at the heat death of the universe?

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Akrasjel Lanate
Lanate Industries
#11 - 2014-04-04 18:15:52 UTC
TL:DR
Grr NDA...
Straight



CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-04-04 18:21:35 UTC
Finally, the NDA 9 minutes.
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
Already Replaced.
#13 - 2014-04-04 18:38:23 UTC
want more details on this "Brain in a box"

... is it anything like "head in a jar"??
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-04-04 18:40:00 UTC
Quote:
"He gave some of the technical detail behind what causes lag, stating that the underlying framework that makes spaceship combat work has grown organically and there was never a design or an architecture around it."


OH MY GOD WHY FLEET FIGHTS DO WHAT THEY DO SUDDENLY ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Phoenix Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-04-04 19:13:24 UTC
Hmm wormhole talks got more than 1 page.. most page about mad scientists idea (shakes head).

Saw a few positive concepts.

1) Possible c7 space, no moons, ships stay in space when logged off (in c7 space). HIghly approved.
2) More dual statics and defining some more valuable wormholes. Highly approved.
3) Mad Scientist Cloak Wormhole concept.. Disapproved (I don't agree that it promotes pvp over just random undetectable ganking, there are varied opinions on this on the forums already).

I agree that wormhole space needs more value, but I'm somewhat surprised nobody's considered having actual loot and equipment drop in it (medium sized wormhole cruiser based ship equipment). That is a different topic for a different thread though.

Sov mechanics being looked at, and at least you are looking in the right direction (promoting smaller gangs vs blob warfare).

Issues with power projection being looked at.

No actual decisions on it though.

Yaay!!!!

Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-04-04 19:16:19 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
There is only one true CSM logo. Twisted


Amen brotha!

Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me

Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#17 - 2014-04-04 19:16:33 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
There is only one true CSM logo. Twisted


This is truth, and CCP shouldn't try to impose their logo will on the people of EVE. Down with this attempted powergrab by CCP Dolan.

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog

Seraphiel Angelica
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
#18 - 2014-04-04 19:22:34 UTC
Session 13: Community
Third Party Support


Try to convince CCP that icebox'ing programs should be considered a violation of EULA regarding third Program software.
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
#19 - 2014-04-04 19:29:51 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
I assume that, per tradition, things like "this section will be made available when..." such are a joke and those sections will actually be released at the heat death of the universe?


Yeah, I dont think we've seen the Dust514 sessions of the previous minutes yet.

Billy Hix
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2014-04-04 19:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Billy Hix
Have the Dust minutes from the previous summit been completed yet?
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