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Salvos Rhoska
#7461 - 2014-03-28 11:10:04 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Mandarine, the answer has already been provided above.

No one was telling a lie.


I don't find their posting profile to be similar at all.

Do you have any evidence to support this?

Or is this just the kind of annoying interference you have been running throughout this thread under the pretence of not actually profiting from Erotica1's Bonus Room activities?

Cos thats what you've been doing. Misrepresenting quotes and trying to find some contrived nit to pick at to remove the poster into a derailing venture.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#7462 - 2014-03-28 11:10:47 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:

This is very similar to claiming criminals are prosecuted in the courts of law because you know, victims or victim families have ~personal agendas~ against culprits.


Is it?

How on earth is it?

It's not.

Going to answer the important questions anytime soon or just keep blowing smoke up our collective asses?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#7463 - 2014-03-28 11:11:05 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Please define 'most' and provide researched statistics to support up this assertion.

Just about everyone who isn't directly profiting from the activities involved, either in the form of ISK or enjoying the recordings.
You are the only ones defending this.

Even those who are concerned about slippery slope consequences of intervention, don't actually approve of what is happening in the Bonus Room.

The post history of this thread evidences that by means of the statistics of poster counts.
The top posters are all associated with Erotica1 and profit from this activity. I am the only exception in that list.

The rest is independant posters, most of who have expressed they find what happens in the Bonus Room goes too far.
Thats why you and others profiting from the activity, constitute the top % of the posts, because you are forced to run daft amounts of damage control and interference against a dissenting majority.

You know this, I know this, everyone knows this.


Hmm... Nowhere did I say I profit from the 'bonus round' isk wise... Nor did I say I enjoy listening to the recordings. In fact I never actually said that I support ero's activities at all? All I said that based on what I have heard and read this looks like a witch hunt against ero... But if you actually took the time to actually read the posts you would know that now, Would you?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7464 - 2014-03-28 11:11:14 UTC
I'm starting think Salvos and Prince Kobol are Harry Forever/ Divine alts.... someone help me

I'm about to send you all my assets willingly, pls dont ask me to sing a song (which I will happily comply to though) and read a document to get it back I mean that **** is torture bro.

I disagree
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7465 - 2014-03-28 11:11:25 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Alp Khan wrote:
Do you know any CCP developer that felt compelled to send Erotica 1 pictures of a boyfriend/girlfriend? Or any CCP developer that felt compelled to write Erotica 1 on his/her body with mayonnaise?


Unless you are a JFG, read your own forums and than try to take the moral highground approach.

What anyone feels compelled to do isn't our business is it?

What goons make some people do sometimes (via their Forums/website, not through EVE online, they are quite nice there) isn't either but is really sick sometimes.

D.

Bear


Can you point out examples?
Korhaka Mirunas
Doomheim
#7466 - 2014-03-28 11:11:29 UTC
Used Google to define 'bully'
- use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

This is where things get odd in games like EVE, as if I have someone warp scrambled and open up a conversation I am the one in the position of superior strength and influence, I can then use this to force them out of their ISK by demanding they pay up or I tear their shiny ship in half.

We need T3 Shuttles!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiR5Q72kT1U
Salvos Rhoska
#7467 - 2014-03-28 11:11:49 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
hi there.

Hi! Hows it going?

...calm down.
its a game,
remember?


I'm calm :)

Plenty of coffee and smokes, and ready for a brand new beautiful day!

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#7468 - 2014-03-28 11:12:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Muestereate
I've just figured out I feel the same way about CCP as I do about Erotics bsdm room. Suddenly it smells and feels slimy here.

and the coffee taste as bad as Starbucks Pikes Blend or Blonde
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#7469 - 2014-03-28 11:13:18 UTC
Myriad Blaze wrote:
You could probably even find a few ignorants who never heard of him.


the lucky ones.
Salvos Rhoska
#7470 - 2014-03-28 11:13:40 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
But if you actually took the time to actually read the posts you would know that now, Would you?

I did take the time to read your posts. And I have addressed you directly.

If you took the time to read the posts you would see that the one you quote is not addressed to you, so there is no reason for you to imply that it is, unless you accidentally cross-posted on an alt.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#7471 - 2014-03-28 11:14:34 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:


Do you know any CCP developer that felt compelled to send Erotica 1 pictures of a boyfriend/girlfriend? Or any CCP developer that felt compelled to write Erotica 1 on his/her body with mayonnaise? Perhaps some CCP developer which had their disabled partner go into a screaming panic attack as a result of interaction with Erotica 1?

Go ahead, I'm listening.


Recorded proof?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7472 - 2014-03-28 11:14:38 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Alp Khan wrote:

This is very similar to claiming criminals are prosecuted in the courts of law because you know, victims or victim families have ~personal agendas~ against culprits.


Is it?

How on earth is it?

It's not.

Going to answer the important questions anytime soon or just keep blowing smoke up our collective asses?

D.

Bear


Am I the CEO of Widot? You are asking questions that I don't have answers to.
But here is an easy way to validate the claims. If Erotica 1 was asked to stay in Widot, then surely he can rejoin and stay in Widot, right?

Can Erotica 1 please rejoin Widot and stay there for a while?
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#7473 - 2014-03-28 11:14:50 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Alp Khan wrote:
Do you know any CCP developer that felt compelled to send Erotica 1 pictures of a boyfriend/girlfriend? Or any CCP developer that felt compelled to write Erotica 1 on his/her body with mayonnaise?


Unless you are a JFG, read your own forums and than try to take the moral highground approach.

What anyone feels compelled to do isn't our business is it?

What goons make some people do sometimes (via their Forums/website, not through EVE online, they are quite nice there) isn't either but is really sick sometimes.


Can you point out examples?


Sure, just go here and start reading.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Prince Kobol
#7474 - 2014-03-28 11:15:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:

So why didn't the CEO of Widot tell everybody to get lost and refuse to kick E1?

E1 has stated that he was never kicked, he left of his own accord, Mynnna is saying he was kicked.

So taking what you have said, A high Level Director has gone to the CEO of Widot, told to kick him and they must of agreed otherwise E1 would still be a member.

Or of course he could of just been told by his CEO that he was getting kicked and then rushed to claim he was leaving just before the boot hit him on the ass Big smile


So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?

And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.

Why are you trying soooo hard?

D.

Bear


So avoiding the answer, interesting.

Also, if what E1 is doing is okay and fine, then why leave?

What was the problem, nobody should of been upset with him because apparently what he is doing is fine


You are indeed avoiding to answer questions as to what your motives are and where your proof is. Thanks for confirming.
What E1, shedoo, ransommers, goons and everyone who's having a mutually consented laugh is doing is indeed fine. Why do you have so much problems with that?

The problem was someone with a personal agenda against a player made up some fantasy story about a fellow eve player being TORTURED.

D.

Bear



Thats is the second time you have avoided my questions.

1. Why did the CEO of Widot not tell who ever wanted E1 kicked to jump of a bridge which according to is their right?

2. What would of any Director of GSF wanted E1 kicked to being with if he wasn't doing anything bad? Consider that he was kicked long before Jesters Post?

3. Why would of E1 felt he had to of leave Widot and GSF if he was doing nothing wrong?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7475 - 2014-03-28 11:16:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Cos thats what you've been doing. Misrepresenting quotes and trying to find some contrived nit to pick at to remove the poster into a derailing venture.

I'll let others judge whether my post history is aimed at removing people by derailing. I would argue that isn't what I have done at all, but your entitled to your view, so we will just have to agree to disagree.

On the aspect of Kobol being Mandarine, I have already posted on several occasions in this thread that it is a strong suspicion I have, not an absolute knowledge because that could only be confirmed by CCP.

However, I am personally convinced enough to call him on it. If it isn't true and he wants to call me on it, then it can be easily reported and if I'm wrong, will offer a 100% apology to both players and accept whatever sanction CCP chooses to apply.

So far, Kobol hasn't raised a single objection to deny it is true.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#7476 - 2014-03-28 11:16:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
I'm sure the :Moral High Ground: crew can keep this witch hunt alive. They are such a funny and peace loving bunch.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#7477 - 2014-03-28 11:17:22 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:

Am I the CEO of Widot? You are asking questions that I don't have answers to.
But here is an easy way to validate the claims. If Erotica 1 was asked to stay in Widot, then surely he can rejoin and stay in Widot, right?

Can Erotica 1 please rejoin Widot and stay there for a while?


Man, you should put more time in your attempts to dodge the bullets.

So as someone in the know, why would you first claim he was kicked and after realising everyone to know that to be impossible by game-mecanics invent yet another spin on the same BS?

And who says the CEO of Widot didn't do just that? Say NO.
Why are you trying soooo hard?

Bolded the important ones.

As for your little dodge on widot, You know your corp wanted to kick you but I defended you and they decided on not kicking you in the end. See how that works? Did I prove my claims? Nope.
Did you? NOPE.

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
MajorBean
HandelsGilde-De
Outsmarted
#7478 - 2014-03-28 11:18:02 UTC
CCP Wrangler: "EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for."
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7479 - 2014-03-28 11:18:03 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I'm sure the :Moral High Ground: crew can keep this witch hunt alive. They are such a funny and peace loving bunch.


Also, dont see where GSF hiring and firing policy (which we, quite rightly, have no business knowing) fits into the thread subject, but hey if the OP wants to derail his own thread thats his lookout, right?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#7480 - 2014-03-28 11:18:06 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Are we just trolling this thread now?



Yes


Meh, as much as I would like to stay and fight over whether or not people can disconnect from their "video game" avatar...

Get over themselves...

And just HTFU...

I gotta go to bed.

But I will say this.

Talking to sohkar in Escrow chat after all of the festivities ended, he was still innocent enough, and "new" enough, despite his old aged character, to not realize how deep the politics of this game run.

Kinda sad really, that he was thrust into the spotlight, little more than a newbie, to serve as a tool for a CSM member's grudge against one player.

As for the remaining Ero hate, he has already given you what you want.

The characters are being gutted.

Because quite frankly, internet spaceships is not serious business. It is a game, made for people to play the villain. Key word being "play." And while sohkar understands he acted out of bounds with his anger, and while he doesn't agree with Erotica's playstyle, he still respects that it was a game.

He even got back on his feet in just a day or two, lol.

That is a player I can respect, no matter his profession.

Holding his head high.

Took a lot of courage for him to announce his distaste in Ripard's maneuvering, and lack of consent. Especially amongst the scammers who scammed him. But yet, in an environment that is completely friendly and amicable.

Good for him.

Good night all, and thanks for the wonderful forum PvP.

Pirate

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.