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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7341 - 2014-03-28 09:41:48 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:


And you have not answered my question: do you think you abuse the fact that your mark had a speech impediment in any way?


Is it because he chooses to have an easily correctible afflication?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7342 - 2014-03-28 09:42:27 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Infinity, you still have not answered my repeated questions over numerous threads.

Your personality and viewpoints took dramatic turns in the forums for anyone who cares to analyze your post history. I half joking asked if you sold your character and you never responded even with a troll.

Thoughts?


And you have not answered my question: do you think you abuse the fact that your mark had a speech impediment in any way?


Many people are able to overcome their speech impediment by frequently speaking. Shame on you for attempting to take away this mans right of self-improvement.

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#7343 - 2014-03-28 09:45:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Erotica 1
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Kaius Fero wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:

Let's just say that after this is all over with I may be willing to sing songs and do silly things to win billions from total strangers.

Kaius Fero wrote:

Will you also willing to use mayo to cover and massage your body? I'm not gay, but maybe other people would enjoy to see this...



That would suggest you think smearing mayo on yourself and massaging it in isnt silly, but mayo is gay.

Oh... I'm sorry... the mayo massage supposed to be a silly thing not something erotic? Hmm.. then I lost my sense of humor as I really like to watch girls doing stuff like this. So I though a gay would love to see another man doing the same. Sorry.


"a gay"

lol

Go back to the 1950's

Also; ever thought a woman might like to see it too?

Tbh if it isnt silly its just unhygenic


Many of my closest friends are gay. Are we still stuck in the past where we even use gay as an adjective or noun when it doesn't need to be? The same can be said of race.

For example, cop asks you what the robber looked like. You say, "I don't know, just some guy." This type of description usually means heterosexual and of your own race. Give a different description, and you think you are being helpful by noticing how he is different. I want everyone to think about how they use race, religion, and sexual orientation in their everyday language usage. If you are honest with yourself, it might be eye opening.

*edit* too lazy to edit down quotes, this is not meant to talk at ramona as much as agree, while responding to prior quote.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7344 - 2014-03-28 09:46:49 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Infinity, you still have not answered my repeated questions over numerous threads.

Your personality and viewpoints took dramatic turns in the forums for anyone who cares to analyze your post history. I half joking asked if you sold your character and you never responded even with a troll.

Thoughts?


And you have not answered my question: do you think you abuse the fact that your mark had a speech impediment in any way?


Many people are able to overcome their speech impediment by frequently speaking. Shame on you for attempting to take away this mans right of self-improvement.

i love that you are slagging someone els for a 3rd parties speech impediment Big smile
Tor Norman
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7345 - 2014-03-28 09:47:32 UTC
Agata Matahari wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Once again, whether its now okay or not with the victim the line was crossed and cannot be uncrossed. If you're drink driving and don't kill anyone does that make it okay? No.

How much they paid him to be "okay with it" if they did, which is very highly likely given their questionable eithics is irrelevant.

This thread-naught, the multiple blogs, the posts on MMORPG, Massively and the rest slamming EVE, CCP, the player base is damage and the potential harm that it COULD HAVE CAUSED is the main issue.

As an aside I found it pretty amusing that someone... can't say who seems to have gone around and posted on sites that its suddenly okay, the victim is not upset, that the person who reported it is the evil one and oh yeah, could you please lock and delete these now... lol


damn, you are one of the very few here who hits the essential point here amongst 400 different posters. (about 50 Erotica1 alts not included)

Really? We're standing under the "what could have happened" banner?

I think we should remove permanent ship loss. After all, such events are emotionally distressing and you never know what might happen if a person gets upset. The potential harm that could be caused is the main issue. They'd be vicariously liable!

Totally ridiculous! There is a thing called personal responsibility and frankly I'm worried so few people think it applies to them. Nothing we do in this game can have a bearing on real life events, with the exceptions being directly goading others into doing something irreversible and destructive. CCP already have and do enforce rules on this matter.

I talk about EVE trading and general space violence in my blog.

For the ISK and the yarr!

Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#7346 - 2014-03-28 09:48:12 UTC
with respect is it time to close this and await CCPs response?, its the same arguments now on every page.

CCP has to take notice and respond quickly due the huge feedback and feelings about this,
embrel
BamBam Inc.
#7347 - 2014-03-28 09:48:53 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:

Sure... Do I really need to start linking the locked threads in C&P in regards to this particular 'bonus room' round? It was known the minute the recording was released.


I remember a thread in C&P about a different bonus room a few months ago. It is not as if this is only discussed because of that CSM blog.

It's being discussed cause sufficient people feel it worthy to be.

And to call that all just "a witchhunt by a silly mob with pitchforks that was rabble-roused" is just as shortsighted as "oh, noes ban the pedophile-torturer-scum".

This "respect for differing opinions" can also be seen in political discussions in many a country where side A tries to disqualify all arguments from side B from the start, as side's A opinion must be idiotic anyway, just because its from that side.

I doubt that this is what leads to constructive solutions of things that a part of society/community think is a problem.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#7348 - 2014-03-28 09:49:01 UTC
Posting in a thread...

...

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#7349 - 2014-03-28 09:49:33 UTC
Coffee Rocks wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:


Ok, so to summarize, you are using this to get more traffic for your blog right?

Question: Of all these blogs, how many have Google Adwords, other ads, or sell GTC's?

You do know that making money from the game is strictly forbidden by the EULA, right....?

I'm half joking here, but still. We need to question motivations before trying to renew sensationalist witch hunts. I'm going to bed for real this time, can't wait to see page 500 later today.


Q's in order:

1.) I'm not against new traffic, but most will find I don't post much
2.) Mine? No ads beyond the EVE advert at the bottom.
2.1) Others? I have no idea. I tend to mentally block ads out. Too much time in Jita, probably ;)
3) Absolutely, just like I'm aware of many other rules...

Erotica1. 'Enjoy' your time in this anti-limelight, whatever. But in all seriousness, please see someone and get help for yourself. That goes for anyone that thinks this is "fun".

I really, sincerely mean that. Good luck.


I give my permission for you to post our private chat logs on your blog. I have my own copy. Question: who paid you, or what is your motivation to do a complete 180 on your opinion of me and the bonus rounds?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7350 - 2014-03-28 09:50:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Erotica 1 wrote:


Many of my closest friends are gay. Are we still stuck in the past where we even use gay as an adjective or noun when it doesn't need to be? The same can be said of race.

For example, cop asks you what the robber looked like. You say, "I don't know, just some guy." This type of description usually means heterosexual and of your own race. Give a different description, and you think you are being helpful by noticing how he is different. I want everyone to think about how they use race, religion, and sexual orientation in their everyday language usage. If you are honest with yourself, it might be eye opening.


eeeasy there,
bit heavy on the hearts and minds.Lol
im actually picking glitter out of my eyes after reading that.
Alana Charen-Teng
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7351 - 2014-03-28 09:50:51 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
with respect is it time to close this and await CCPs response?, its the same arguments now on every page.

CCP has to take notice and respond quickly due the huge feedback and feelings about this,


Not until we reach 400 pages.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7352 - 2014-03-28 09:52:15 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
with respect is it time to close this and await CCPs response?, its the same arguments now on every page.

CCP has to take notice and respond quickly due the huge feedback and feelings about this,

Close this thread? Are you crazy? This is a containment area. You don't let the zombies out for a pub crawl while you're waiting for the DHS to respond.
Velt Shmerts
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7353 - 2014-03-28 09:52:30 UTC
Coffee Rocks wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Hmmm, so no official response from CCP yet.


Well it's good to know there are no boundaries when it comes to issues such as this. Harassment, bullying and humiliation is accepted in Eve Online.

Will be interesting to see how scams of this nature escalates, considering CCP hasn't given any official response yet.



quit trying to relight the fire. Sohkar ended it himself.


I know you really, really want it to be stamped out but it's just too late. You guys lit it and didn't realize EVERYONE would see. And ffs, Ripard is a good guy - why do you guys hate on him so much? <-- That's a serious Q, I really don't know what he did. Was it before my time? Or, was it just THIS? Because of him using Erotica's "Bonus Room" to highlight just how far into "horrible" we've let the community needle slide?

I know you really, really want this to be the "end all", but sorry, it's not about the individual harmed. It's about the individuals that do the harming.

Just for fun, I'm going to list a whole string of blogs people mailed to me that share our viewpoint (some call for bans, some don't, but are of the same theme).

EVE Plex: Sociopath Callout: Erotica 1
The Coffee Rocks: The Airlock
Jester's Trek: The Bonus Round
Align to Ramble: Sociopaths In Space
Warp To 0: Slippery Slopes
Mabrik's Mumblings: It's a Discussion the Gaming Community Needs to Have
EVE Inudstrialist: EVE (EVil Entities)
Hardcore Casual: Too Much tolerance
Foo's EVE Musings: The incident in a certain room



Sure, Sokhar is only another individual, but his opinion matters at least as much as yours or mine--and his has the weight of experience. Listen to what he's saying. His perspective on what happened is much more mature and measured than those you will find from the demagogues in this thread. He emphasized that it was his character being embarrassed. This man recognizes that Eve is a game. "I got scammed; I got angry; I got over it. Why can't everyone else?" (quoted from the twitch stream). It's not merely the fact that Sokhar and E1 reconciled, it's Sokhar's perspective that should give you pause.

I also think Ripard is a good guy, and I like his blog . As he says somewhere on his blog's comments, [people] of good faith can disagree. And I disagree with his vision of what Eve is. Both of us recognize that Eve's universe has a god (we all pay our tithes dutifully with PLEX), but Ripard is a theist. Perhaps, with enough praying and blogging and forum postings, CCP will appear and enforce his (and many of those in this thread's) standard of morality. I'm a deist. Thank you, CCP, for making the sand, but stay out of the box.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7354 - 2014-03-28 09:54:47 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I want everyone to think about how they use race, religion, and sexual orientation in their everyday language usage. If you are honest with yourself, it might be eye opening.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo8qbkTAts4

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#7355 - 2014-03-28 09:54:56 UTC
Tarojan wrote:
Erotica I want to hear you sing teletubbies say eh oh.



You didnt answer? :( if you dont know the words I can type them out for you: "Tinky winky, dipsy, Ripard Treg, pooah. teletubbies, teletubies...say..eh..oh EHO OHHH"]

Will gank for food

Korhaka Mirunas
Doomheim
#7356 - 2014-03-28 09:55:44 UTC
http://strawpoll.me/1393800

I am curious to see how the EVE community actually feels about this, I will be trying to spread this throughout New Eden. I encourage others to do the same to help gather what players actually feel about this.

And I am well aware that even if many 'feel' upset, that doesn't make them right.

We need T3 Shuttles!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiR5Q72kT1U

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7357 - 2014-03-28 09:57:44 UTC
Korhaka Mirunas wrote:
http://strawpoll.me/1393800

I am curious to see how the EVE community actually feels about this, I will be trying to spread this throughout New Eden. I encourage others to do the same to help gather what players actually feel about this.

And I am well aware that even if many 'feel' upset, that doesn't make them right.


The amount of votes for 3 is the most telling.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#7358 - 2014-03-28 09:58:07 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
with respect is it time to close this and await CCPs response?, its the same arguments now on every page.

CCP has to take notice and respond quickly due the huge feedback and feelings about this,

Close this thread? Are you crazy? This is a containment area. You don't let the zombies out for a pub crawl while you're waiting for the DHS to respond.


Question: While everyone is in this thread, has the rest of forum been tamer and has Jita been accessible? If so, we could keep it open until the opening of the time capsule, which may reveal some messages of note. :o)

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7359 - 2014-03-28 09:59:27 UTC
Velt Shmerts wrote:
Both of us recognize that Eve's universe has a god



I nearly choked on my vitriol and ashes flavour cereal

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7360 - 2014-03-28 10:00:43 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:


I give my permission for you to post our private chat logs on your blog. I have my own copy. Question: who paid you, or what is your motivation to do a complete 180 on your opinion of me and the bonus rounds?


Oof, that was when I was first playing EVE - I'd have to go check if they are on the old comp; idk if they are still there, but if they are I'll take you up on that. The screenshots you had, though? I doubt I had the foresight to take screenshots of said screenshots. THAT would have been nice to have atm. Hell, we could open a whole 'nother threadnaught after this one locks.

My opinion of you hasn't changed. It was always this. Being polite with a friendly wave in local once in a while is not "agreeing" or "liking" you. It just means I was smart enough to keep a rabid dog from locking eyes on me again.

BTW, for those confused, my blog post referring my feelings on the whole matter include Erotica1 and I's first meeting. I'm an honest guy, and even admitted that he tossed me ISK after shooting me (100mil if I remember right?). Go read the rest, it's a tale.

Seriously, that help? Get it. We may be at odds, and I may think it's time for you to leave this game, but that does NOT mean I don't think you should get the help you deserve as a human being. You do deserve it.

Time for bed for me, too. 7o