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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#6101 - 2014-03-27 19:26:38 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
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Does it matter, weirdo?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#6102 - 2014-03-27 19:26:48 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?

You misunderstand how the Bonus Room functions.

It is not ten songs.
It is an unending line of arbitrary demands, any of which if you refuse to perform or choose to leave the Bonus Room, Erotica1 wins.

This process is hastened by abusing the victim during it, and thereby made "amusing" to a group of players who get off on listening to the suffering of the victim trying to cope with what is being done to him.

There is no actual way to win, unless you are an associate of Erotica1 and are running through the Bonus Room for purposes of creating a theater so that he can maintain the false legitimacy that anyone can ever (legitimately) win the Bonus Room.

Its important that you understand the difference.


Having witnessed multiple Bonus Rooms, the structure of the Bonus Room is actually rather specific. It goes through specific stages that vary extremely little.

You also keep presupposing the agents are "abusing" the contestant, when the entirety of the Agents goals is to keep you motivated and having fun. That's why they're polite.

I'd imagine abuse would be easier if you actually did something mean.


Most clients have fun, laugh, and are generally good sports.

Those never get publicized "Look at how much fun Erotica 1 is making for everyone."

Only the bad ones, where the client becomes abusive, are posted, and everyone says "Look how much Erotica 1 is abusing people!"

All for the sake of the personal agenda of the pot stirrers and cat herders.

Ignorance is bliss.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6103 - 2014-03-27 19:26:51 UTC
time to lock this thread....

CCP has been made aware of the issue and most people have expressed their opinion on it.

I count roughly 400 unique contributors, after eliminating E1's alts and trolls.

About 75% of those looks like support E1 being perma-banned.

Enough said.

Lock the thread.
Big Lynx
#6104 - 2014-03-27 19:27:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Big Lynx
Myriad Blaze wrote:
Btw, is this thread record breaking already?
Or do we have to carry on and make a few more posts? Pirate


No worries you will get the T-Shirt "Threadnaught 2014 - I was there."
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6105 - 2014-03-27 19:28:13 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
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Are you the Bonus Room escrow agent responsible for the twitch channel associated with the room, named "Kristallnacht"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht


Ah, so you've heard of me!

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Salvos Rhoska
#6106 - 2014-03-27 19:28:30 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Burn the redditor!

I am 4channer.

Filthy peasant I am, I know.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#6107 - 2014-03-27 19:28:37 UTC
Myriad Blaze wrote:
Btw, is this thread record breaking already?
Or do we have to carry on and make a few more posts? Pirate


I added some incentive to continue this conversation earlier if you noticed.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
H aVo K
Tycheon Industries
#6108 - 2014-03-27 19:28:50 UTC
Qalix wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Danalee wrote:
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Come. Give me all your assets and enter my game.

There I will abuse you for 100hrs if necessary with a unending demands that amuse my sadism, until you leave, and I win.

Many pages back I said you should stop posting. Not because you're wrong, but because there is nothing left to say. But you just won't listen. Now you have become the subject of the thread. Can you not see how you're being manipulated? You've played into your opponents' hands by constantly and consistently moving the focus off what ought to be a simple statement. If you can't recognize the psychological game that's being played with you, well, you make me sad.

Good luck.


He's not being manipulated.

I'm siding with the sandbox.

I can't stand hisec scamming and griefing, and, at face value, am tempted to agree with those who think that this game would be better off without people whose sole method of gameplay involves those aspects.... but I realize that that's a slippery slope, since many of us engage in gameplay that touches on those aspects; few people have hands that are perfectly clear in this regard.

So why am I publicly disagreeing with Salvos on this, when I don't actually have a dog in this fight?

Because the stupidity of what he's posting is offensive, and I'm falling prey to this: https://xkcd.com/386/
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#6109 - 2014-03-27 19:29:26 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Let me ask this question.

If E1 was actually serious about running for CSM and proceeded to gain a seat his real name would become public.

What if then one of the people who he recorded and posted on the internet decided to get revenge and found out were he worked and proceeded to inform then of what he does and they found it to be distasteful and it impacted on his real life would this be acceptable?

After all it was E1 who posted the material to begin with and E1 would of been well aware that his real name would be made available to all.


You honestly think E1 will get on the CSM?

In answer, he asked someone to read the code, read some wikipedia and sing two songs. Where exactly is the rule breaking here?


In the event that CCP provides an exception due to my expired passport, allows anonymity due to death threats, and allows my candidacy at all by ignoring angry carebears with pitchforks, then I'm certain that whatever the final vote tally is, I would get far more votes due to this event than would have occured otherwise.

I believe I would make a fine CSM.

Do I think any of this will happen? LOL Of course not. But it does say something about the whole posting CSM names' thing. Ask for passports, fine. But the policy of posting the real names allows some people to take things way too far for an internet spaceship council.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
#6110 - 2014-03-27 19:29:47 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:


Last time I checked with any normal person, using the victim being stupid as an excuse for abuse wasn't really kosher.

Mr Epeen Cool


Then those "normal people" lied to you, as I've explained to you previously.. Despite your politically correct view, somethings a 'victim' is at least partially at fault for the things that happen to them.


That's a very politically incorrect view you have there - one I partially agree with.

I think victims can contribute to their situation by their actions, but I don't think that in any way mitigates or "excuses" the actions of the perpetrator.

An analogy: the guy that wanders around the bad bit of town dressed in a nice suit and flashing money who subsequently gets mugged is partially responsible for what happened, but the mugger doesn't get to use that as an excuse.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6111 - 2014-03-27 19:30:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
But Ripard wrote that it was torture.

Surely if someone on an internet blog uses a word in a piece of creative writing, it must be true and we need to find every possible justification for it being true?

After all, it was creative writing. That stuff is known to be so factually checked i can't imagine anything in a piece being used more for the writers desire for impact than for it being actual legal or even common sense fact.

Lets turn it into what we believe is actual fact, because that just helps us be outraged.

That'll work won't it?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6112 - 2014-03-27 19:30:44 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
time to lock this thread....

CCP has been made aware of the issue and most people have expressed their opinion on it.

I count roughly 400 unique contributors, after eliminating E1's alts and trolls.

About 75% of those looks like support E1 being perma-banned.

Enough said.

Lock the thread.



I am a scientist and my analysis of this thread shows 99% of people in this thread support nerfing highsec with 0.5% supporting banning ripard teg and 0.5% supporting removing reddit from the internet.

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Salvos Rhoska
#6113 - 2014-03-27 19:30:51 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Most clients have fun, laugh, and are generally good sports.

Prove it.

Xuixien wrote:
Those never get publicized "Look at how much fun Erotica 1 is making for everyone."

Why not. Publicise them now then.

Xuixien wrote:
Only the bad ones, where the client becomes abusive, are posted, and everyone says "Look how much Erotica 1 is abusing people!"

Yes, thanks for those. Nice to have evidence.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#6114 - 2014-03-27 19:31:50 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:
So, if a gate camp scrams a player and the ransom is *ten* songs on TS, is that torture?

You misunderstand how the Bonus Room functions.

It is not ten songs.
It is an unending line of arbitrary demands, any of which if you refuse to perform or choose to leave the Bonus Room, Erotica1 wins.

This process is hastened by abusing the victim during it, and thereby made "amusing" to a group of players who get off on listening to the suffering of the victim trying to cope with what is being done to him.

There is no actual way to win, unless you are an associate of Erotica1 and are running through the Bonus Room for purposes of creating a theater so that he can maintain the false legitimacy that anyone can ever (legitimately) win the Bonus Room.

Its important that you understand the difference.


Gate campers aren't required to honor whatever ransom they demand, either. They can demand whatever the eff they want and assure the victim they can "win" by playing along. Bonus room contestants can just realize they've been scammed and walk away that much the wiser at any time, just like a gate camp victim can either self destruct or just say eff it and let the pirates blow him up.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6115 - 2014-03-27 19:31:51 UTC
Can we please stop using the word torture..... All you are doing is minimizing the the impact of the word......THERE WAS NO TORTURE......There was instead the arguable manipulation and emotional abuse of an individual with an alleged speech (and possible mental) impediment.


NOT Torture....... The first world problems in this thread come no where near the severity and damage the real physical and physiological torture that is endured by real people all over the world.



Stop using torture!!!!!!!

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Salvos Rhoska
#6116 - 2014-03-27 19:32:02 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
But Ripard wrote that it was torture.

Have you read the post linked in my sig?

I would encourage you to do so.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#6117 - 2014-03-27 19:32:27 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Let me ask this question.

If E1 was actually serious about running for CSM and proceeded to gain a seat his real name would become public.

What if then one of the people who he recorded and posted on the internet decided to get revenge and found out were he worked and proceeded to inform then of what he does and they found it to be distasteful and it impacted on his real life would this be acceptable?

After all it was E1 who posted the material to begin with and E1 would of been well aware that his real name would be made available to all.


You honestly think E1 will get on the CSM?

In answer, he asked someone to read the code, read some wikipedia and sing two songs. Where exactly is the rule breaking here?


In the event that CCP provides an exception due to my expired passport, allows anonymity due to death threats, and allows my candidacy at all by ignoring angry carebears with pitchforks, then I'm certain that whatever the final vote tally is, I would get far more votes due to this event than would have occured otherwise.

I believe I would make a fine CSM.

Do I think any of this will happen? LOL Of course not. But it does say something about the whole posting CSM names' thing. Ask for passports, fine. But the policy of posting the real names allows some people to take things way too far for an internet spaceship council.


No. It just makes sure you will behave in a professional manner not like a turd that you are in game now.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6118 - 2014-03-27 19:32:55 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:


In the event that CCP provides an exception due to my expired passport, allows anonymity due to death threats, and allows my candidacy at all by ignoring angry carebears with pitchforks, then I'm certain that whatever the final vote tally is, I would get far more votes due to this event than would have occured otherwise.




Don't ask for much, do you you special little snowflake?


Mr Epeen Cool
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6119 - 2014-03-27 19:33:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Have you read the post linked in my sig?

I would encourage you to do so.


Just because a second piece of creative writing uses the same word, doesn't make it any more factual either.
Mikey Aivo
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#6120 - 2014-03-27 19:33:44 UTC
]time to lock this thread....

CCP has been made aware of the issue and most people have expressed their opinion on it.

I count roughly 400 unique contributors, after eliminating alts and trolls.

About 75% of those looks like support E1

Enough said.

Lock the thread.