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Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#5921 - 2014-03-27 18:31:22 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake
Big smile


**Can't quote the whole thing but to reply.

I don't care what he does. All i care is how CCP will handle it and future copy cats.

HTFU and don't post your tears of fake retribution here.


You still have not posted what rules were broken.


Yes I did. Quite a few times.
Some might not see that as interpretation is left to CCP and CCP alone but that's how I see them.

That's why I wrote that it's CCPs opinion that I'm interested in.

I see it as stretching a rope to a point it will break one day but then it will be too late.
It already happened in this game and luckly it picked up. Nobody knows what will next "crash" do to it.

I want rules that can eliminate or allow for such behaviur. They need to be clear to ALL of us as eve is a pretty ****** up environment already.
It's the only way to keep psychos on a leash and allow others to go fully creative on how to **** up others.

If there are no certain and clear rules in a game like eve things are destined to hurt somebody in RL. Twitter, FB and other MMOs already proved it.
If eve does then our freedom they way it is now will be pretty much cut and let's see then how we all like to play the civilized eve.

Oh he deleted his toon?? UH OH he can go and BUY 10 more and continue doing what he does and others more hard core will step in just to be the NEXT cookie.
This post of theirs is even bigger joke than the Bonus Room by itself.


They point to examples where people "won 10b and had fun so it's all good." But wasn't it they're goal to all along to find a participant like Sohkar? Push someone enough until they crack and provide audio to play over and over. While Sohkar is 100% not excused for the racist tirade he went on, I think in the end they got what they wanted. Why else would they post it online afterward?
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5922 - 2014-03-27 18:31:25 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
...defending cyber-bullying...deflecting...shifting blame....


GTFO and dont come back, sadist.
Giovanni erkelens2
Violent Trans Matching
Neon Nightmares
#5923 - 2014-03-27 18:31:38 UTC
TO THE 300 PAGES.


full of bullshit, minchbaggery and doucheness
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
#5924 - 2014-03-27 18:32:31 UTC
Giovanni erkelens2 wrote:
TO THE 300 PAGES.


full of bullshit, minchbaggery and doucheness


It wouldn't be an EveO thread if it were anything else.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#5925 - 2014-03-27 18:33:00 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake
Big smile


**Can't quote the whole thing but to reply.

I don't care what he does. All i care is how CCP will handle it and future copy cats.

HTFU and don't post your tears of fake retribution here.


You still have not posted what rules were broken.


Logic and reason, baltec.

Not applicable to GD, unfortunately.

And evidently, those two things are construed as tears now too.

Here lemme try the other side of the fence for a moment.

EROTICA 1 SHOULD DIE IN A FIRE AND BE DRAGGED THROUGH THE STREETS STILL SMOLDERING BECAUSE HE MADE SOMEONE SING ON TS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meh, nope. Not for me.

I prefer logic and reason. Y'know, truths, opposed to half truths and fabrications.

Guess I will always lose the GD battle. vOv

Roll



It's all about logic actually.
All this tear inflicted SOB post yet you can transfer all assets back and buy 10 new toons.

I know some of your participants had to be stupid but your attitude proves that you indeed are a ******.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5926 - 2014-03-27 18:33:14 UTC
So this entire thread is about 'feelings'? Man...

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5927 - 2014-03-27 18:33:20 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
...defending cyber-bullying...deflecting...shifting blame....


Strawmanning, frothing at the mouth, blowing things out of proportion and shifting the goalposts.


Giggidy.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#5928 - 2014-03-27 18:33:25 UTC
I must snipe that 300 page...DIBS!!

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5929 - 2014-03-27 18:34:07 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
So this entire thread is about 'feelings'? Man...

AND BITCHFORKING!!!

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Salvos Rhoska
#5930 - 2014-03-27 18:34:25 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
So this entire thread is about 'feelings'? Man...

Feelings

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#5931 - 2014-03-27 18:34:25 UTC
arabella blood wrote:
I must snipe that 300 page...DIBS!!


YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!

Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#5932 - 2014-03-27 18:34:39 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Effect One wrote:
Go and find a legal definition of torture if you want to discuss legal principles.


Amnesty International is the world leader in legal counsel on matters of human rights.

If you wish to provide other definitions, feel free to do so.

Have you read the link submitted in my sig?


Then maybe you should call them up and ask for their input instead of putting words in their mouths. I doubt they'd look to kindly on trivializing their core mission.

Also, since they represent people who have been tortured, its obviously in their interests to pick a broad a definition as possible.

But when they go to the ICC, they use the ICC's definition of torture, not their own, because its an actual court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_against_Torture

Here's torture in US law. Turns out its not even a crime in this case because torture is a crime committed by a law enforcement agency or an agent acting on behalf of the government. It also specifically refers to physical custody.

So if you're going to say E1 tortured somebody, you're not even describing a crime. Whatever thing you say is constituting "torture" would have to be a crime in and of itself.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#5933 - 2014-03-27 18:34:45 UTC
Bayonnefrog wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake
Big smile


**Can't quote the whole thing but to reply.

I don't care what he does. All i care is how CCP will handle it and future copy cats.

HTFU and don't post your tears of fake retribution here.


You still have not posted what rules were broken.


Yes I did. Quite a few times.
Some might not see that as interpretation is left to CCP and CCP alone but that's how I see them.

That's why I wrote that it's CCPs opinion that I'm interested in.

I see it as stretching a rope to a point it will break one day but then it will be too late.
It already happened in this game and luckly it picked up. Nobody knows what will next "crash" do to it.

I want rules that can eliminate or allow for such behaviur. They need to be clear to ALL of us as eve is a pretty ****** up environment already.
It's the only way to keep psychos on a leash and allow others to go fully creative on how to **** up others.

If there are no certain and clear rules in a game like eve things are destined to hurt somebody in RL. Twitter, FB and other MMOs already proved it.
If eve does then our freedom they way it is now will be pretty much cut and let's see then how we all like to play the civilized eve.

Oh he deleted his toon?? UH OH he can go and BUY 10 more and continue doing what he does and others more hard core will step in just to be the NEXT cookie.
This post of theirs is even bigger joke than the Bonus Room by itself.


They point to examples where people "won 10b and had fun so it's all good." But wasn't it they're goal to all along to find a participant like Sohkar? Push someone enough until they crack and provide audio to play over and over. While Sohkar is 100% not excused for the racist tirade he went on, I think in the end they got what they wanted. Why else would they post it online afterward?


Yeah. they wanted and they went public with it and now they are damage controlling and trying to make retards believe that somehow assets can't be trasnfeered back and that E1 can't get a new toon rofl.

**** me levels of their stupidity is beyyooooond anything I read in this forums for a loooong time hahah
Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#5934 - 2014-03-27 18:34:46 UTC
Jiorj wrote:
does alpha podding a station sitter change anything about what thy can or can not do?

does their handing over of assets preclude the fact that said assets can be handed back later?

I love the paintball anecdote above. Inflicting an act on yourself does not make it ok to do it to others

but let me get this straight, alpha podding removes skill points from the player, there is no hope of getting a multiple of them back, you are doing solid damage and setting the character back time that must be reaquired slowly. and this was normal 'bonus room activity'?

so it was not just 'a couple of songs'


It was a massive post of spin. Has anyone in the pro-Ero camp reached out and tried to make this right with Sohkar? That's where it should begin.

It's telling that their best response to this mess it to continue what they've always done: play the bonus room one more time. Sad.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5935 - 2014-03-27 18:34:54 UTC
Giovanni erkelens2 wrote:
TO THE 300 PAGES.


full of bullshit, minchbaggery and doucheness



Onward and upward. Not full. I made a couple fair points after I stopped trollingBlink

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#5936 - 2014-03-27 18:35:16 UTC
Bayonnefrog wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake
Big smile


**Can't quote the whole thing but to reply.

I don't care what he does. All i care is how CCP will handle it and future copy cats.

HTFU and don't post your tears of fake retribution here.


You still have not posted what rules were broken.


Yes I did. Quite a few times.
Some might not see that as interpretation is left to CCP and CCP alone but that's how I see them.

That's why I wrote that it's CCPs opinion that I'm interested in.

I see it as stretching a rope to a point it will break one day but then it will be too late.
It already happened in this game and luckly it picked up. Nobody knows what will next "crash" do to it.

I want rules that can eliminate or allow for such behaviur. They need to be clear to ALL of us as eve is a pretty ****** up environment already.
It's the only way to keep psychos on a leash and allow others to go fully creative on how to **** up others.

If there are no certain and clear rules in a game like eve things are destined to hurt somebody in RL. Twitter, FB and other MMOs already proved it.
If eve does then our freedom they way it is now will be pretty much cut and let's see then how we all like to play the civilized eve.

Oh he deleted his toon?? UH OH he can go and BUY 10 more and continue doing what he does and others more hard core will step in just to be the NEXT cookie.
This post of theirs is even bigger joke than the Bonus Room by itself.


They point to examples where people "won 10b and had fun so it's all good." But wasn't it they're goal to all along to find a participant like Sohkar? Push someone enough until they crack and provide audio to play over and over. While Sohkar is 100% not excused for the racist tirade he went on, I think in the end they got what they wanted. Why else would they post it online afterward?


Can you verify your hypothesis about their intent?

Also most Bonus Rounds are posted. It's just that most Bonus Rounds are actually quite boring to listen to and thus never get any publicity outside of our circle.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Salvos Rhoska
#5937 - 2014-03-27 18:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Batelle wrote:
----


Many good points.

Have you read the post submitted in my sig?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Sergeant Surplus
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5938 - 2014-03-27 18:36:31 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
So this entire thread is about 'feelings'? Man...


Welcome to Modern Society; emo or stfu.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#5939 - 2014-03-27 18:36:43 UTC
Bayonnefrog wrote:
Jiorj wrote:
does alpha podding a station sitter change anything about what thy can or can not do?

does their handing over of assets preclude the fact that said assets can be handed back later?

I love the paintball anecdote above. Inflicting an act on yourself does not make it ok to do it to others

but let me get this straight, alpha podding removes skill points from the player, there is no hope of getting a multiple of them back, you are doing solid damage and setting the character back time that must be reaquired slowly. and this was normal 'bonus room activity'?

so it was not just 'a couple of songs'


It was a massive post of spin. Has anyone in the pro-Ero camp reached out and tried to make this right with Sohkar? That's where it should begin.

It's telling that their best response to this mess it to continue what they've always done: play the bonus room one more time. Sad.


Well I did add him to contacts.

I have not seen him online.

Also are you really from Bayonne? That place is a shithole.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#5940 - 2014-03-27 18:37:12 UTC
Bayonnefrog wrote:
But wasn't it they're goal to all along to find a participant like Sohkar? Push someone enough until they crack and provide audio to play over and over. While Sohkar is 100% not excused for the racist tirade he went on, I think in the end they got what they wanted. Why else would they post it online afterward?


No arguments with that assessment, but none of what you've described is a violation of law or any rules of Eve. Minus the racist tirade, of course.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.