EVE General Discussion

Amazing this is still going on, you realize you are just arguing with the same people over and over. No one is going to change their opinion so why waste your energy on this? I for one am walking away from the forum for awhile until this is gone.

You have won, ladies and gentlemen, you are getting your witch to burn at the stake.

Against the wishes of his friends, Ero has decided to use his own game to remove himself from EvE Online. But as his friends tried to tell him no, it dawned on many of us that this is the only way people will be satisfied.

Erotica's Bonus Round was never meant to be more than a test of whether people could lose inhibition, show faith in a total stranger, and have fun in a game that breeds the worst kind of paranoia.

Whether Ripard and the community believe it was a scam is irrelevant. Those who did win, would not always win liquid isk. Other times they would win the chance at being an Escrow. One Bonus Round "victim" played the round, and due to his sheer power of determination, though losing the round itself, ended up "grab-bagging" 10b or so in assets, including a Thanatos, a Rorqual, and other multi-billion isk assets. And the best part? He did it all with good spirits, and a smile on his face. His EO name? Vicious Rage.

10 billion isk, in two days. Some "victim" of "torture," huh?

But that is now irrelevant as well.

Erotica has relinquished control of both channels, the Escrow Lounge, and The Glory Hole to myself and a few other trusted escrow's. He no longer has a say in what happens in either channel.

To serve the community, he will be doing every single component of the Bonus Round. Only he is going to do it 5x what any other person has done. He will be doing it every day for a "business week." 5 days, 5 bonus rounds. The final bonus rounds.

He will sing songs, a long-time EvE tradition.

He will read the Code. Every single round.

He will contract all of his assets. All active accounts.

He will then be alpha-podded, not on one character, as was the case when podfleet still operated. He will lose all of his SP, until each character is sitting at 900k.

And the ironic thing? We will all walk out from this "test of faith" with a smug smile on our faces. Do you know why?

Because those who support the Bonus Room didn't have to resort to threatening CCP with media backlash in order to serve their own personal agenda.

Bonus Round supporters did not have to use veiled threats of violence to scare a man's innocent wife and child, as so many have had to do in just this one thread.

Bonus Round supporters did not have to resort to doxxing someone to retain their seats on the CSM, to fuel their never-ending crusade of self-righteousness and hubris-driven rabble rousing.

And most importantly, and at the very core of the Bound Round, supporters know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that at the end of the day it is only space pixels. That a game, by it's very definition, is a form of play or sport, a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.

The Bonus Round had a very specific set of rules. It is not the fault of this individual that others could not follow those rules. That tantrums served them better. That instead of playing, they scammed themselves out of what could potentially be a good thing. Emergent. Real. After all, that is the axiom, is it not? EvE is real?

"But-but-but, it's just a scam like every other Erotica stunt!!!!"

Oh yea? Here is Erotica's api key, posted with his permission to the forums. Feel free to peruse it for your enjoyment during this momentous occasion. His mail is not included, as he has personal information contained within, and we often encourage "clients" to either delete their mails or leave mail unchecked in the API, especially when personal information comes to play, and also when large alliance intel comes into play. His contacts are also left out, as we do not want others to become "victims" of the witch hunt that Ripard started.

ID: 3226972

Code: rkk4RiGb0BYlNSKBGO9CtDz6imPSagxSxeyVGvovQ2poUZmO78oTmAkEJw2A8GrW


"Damage Control, you say?"

You mistake us, lol. Most of the Escrow's are so intrinsically lazy, that we could care less about damage control. No, this is walking out, on our terms, with our heads held high. Because we know that we were simply playing the game. Perhaps too meta. But we certainly never held a gun to someone's head, and told them they had to verbally berate us, or even play the Bonus Room, for that matter.

"But you will take it easy on Ero, because you are his friend!!!!!!!!"

I can assure you that Ero chose the most trollish people to give the best possible blowout. Last night he was trolled as he read the Code, as he contracted over several of his over 700 stations, and as I took control of Krypteia Operations for a corp audit. He gets no special treatment, outside of the treatment he needs to protect himself from the violent sadists who have wished death upon him, over a video game, in this very thread.

To those that have spoke out in defense of the sandbox...good for you. You remain true to the tenets this game was based and created on. Harsh, cold, unforgiving, emergent. I am happy that some still believe what this game could and can be.

To those who have thrown death threats, defamation, and everything else at an emergent aspect of the sandbox....

Take a long hard look in the mirror. Are your threats so much better? Your wishes of death? You chose to irrationally follow the words of one man, based on one fringe case. Look up Nikul Naath on Minerbumping. You will see a vastly different performance than the one sohkar gave. In fact, Nikul even used another EvE axiom when he understood he had lost in a PvP game, as I audited and took control of his corp. "Good Fight."

So now, with emergence on trial, the only thing left to do is walk into one last midnight, hand in hand, brothers and sisters, opting not for the "sandbox," but for the Trammelization of EvE.

Well done, Ripard, well done indeed.

Good fight.

There you have it folks.

I've presented hard questions to him twice:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4400852#post4400852

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4400990#post4400990

And instead of answering it, he's trying to pretend he didn't see it and completely avoid the questions by asking me where the posts are located, instead.

Come to your own conclusions guys. :)

Sorry, can you repeat that?

I'm pretty sure this is why torture victims need to be physically restrained.

Just sayin'.

That is a commonly held false belief.

"Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter." - Amnesty International.

There is no requirement of being constrained from leaving the situation, or for being subjected to torture involuntarily, in the above.

At law, according to this definition, it is a question of the "purpose of the former against the will of the latter."

In the specific case of Erotica1's activities in the Bonus Room, torture is the mechanism whereby they force the victim to abort the Bonus Room participation, thereby granting a win to Erotica1.

It is exactly by a person LEAVING the torture he is subjected to within the Bonus Room, that facilitates Erotica1 wins.

Can someone paypal this guy some cash for a new keyboard? The one he has now seems to have a stuck caps lock key.

It is.

... and it's ******* hilarious XD

+1 - I would recommend to use this post for the next CCP marketing campaign.

This is the definition of PVP.