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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#3741 - 2014-03-26 21:19:56 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
What's wrong with death threats? It happened on TS3 man, you can say anything.


Ok, be that way.

In any case either things said on TS don't matter and your point is moot OR they do matter and death threats made by shokar are bad and your point is moot.

Get it?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#3742 - 2014-03-26 21:20:18 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
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This is one of the problems with modern society: no one expects grown folks to take care of themselves anymore.


Yeah i heard the recording.

The opposite is true. Regional, national, cultural boundaries have been removed as barriers to business. The extended and then the nuclear family dissolved, the last social protections from the marketplace. Our strength as social animals has been nullified by the dollar's insistence we become atomised individuals and naturally: civility is the final thing to go.
Not even a lefty whiner here, this sort of fuss will not occur in a decade, tormenting people with speech impediments or mental slowness or anger issues will become the norm and we will gradually be normalised into thinking so.



Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#3743 - 2014-03-26 21:20:23 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
stop posting
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: 2014.03.26 21:13
To: LUMINOUS SPIRIT,

Dude, 20 bil isk for you if you quietly stop posting.


Interesting. E1 thinks I can be quietly bought off for a mere 20 bil? Lol?


It was probably one of your own supporters, trying to bribe you to stop ruining your own case.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#3744 - 2014-03-26 21:20:25 UTC
Time to flog the dead horse again.

The issue as I see it is not who should be punished. It's what should CCP be doing about this?

A problem has been identified and CCP is aware of it (see dev post in this thread). While it's at the same time both a complex yet simple situation, there can only be one solution. CCP can not allow themselves to been seen to allow sick people to use their game as a hunting ground for victimizing people.

Especially this game. One that promotes anti-social behavior as a selling point and pride themselves on catering to the lowest common denominator of brutal MMO players on the internet to sign up. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as they keep it in game. It's one of the things that make EVE what it is.

When it moves out of the game you have a problem. It has now most definitely been seen to have moved out of game.

CCP needs to be seen as the type of company that shows zero tolerance for this behavior, in my opinion. And they need to do it soon. The longer this festers, the more traction it will gain in the gaming press. I don't think any press is good press applies in this situation. They need to jump on this harshly and with haste. If they sit back and mull things over for a week, they will be screwed as I see it.

Mr Epeen Cool
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#3745 - 2014-03-26 21:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
this thread is going places?

Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3746 - 2014-03-26 21:21:09 UTC
embrel wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:

Imaginary video game assets. If he can't understand that those things meant nothing, then how is that someone else's problem?

Again, where is the expectations we as a society should have for people above the age of majority?


Sure, however, we wouldn't expect them to enjoy setting up a bonus room
either.

Clearly making someone with a speech impediment read long passages of text and sing in front of a group of people, all the while hanging some reward in front of him that you make essentially unobtainable, is a very responsible, mature, adult thing to do.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ais Hellia
Jita Honor Industries Union
#3747 - 2014-03-26 21:21:15 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

So teamspeak is a magical fairy tale land where you can get away with saying literally anything.


So what wrong did Erotica say exactly??
Word by word please?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3748 - 2014-03-26 21:21:33 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
Ero's detractors keep vacillating between "the EULA" (it happened in game) and "the law" (it happened out of game).

It just so happens that we're more than happy to follow any premise to it's conclusion, because either way: Ero 1 didn't break any rules or policies.

So teamspeak is a magical fairy tale land where you can get away with saying literally anything.
That's wonderful news.

No, that would be the internet in general.

James, I can say anything I like to you on TS. If you don't like it you can either put up with it, argue back, or leave. You can chose those options because you are an adult.

But none of those options constitutes a bannable offense from EVE.

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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#3749 - 2014-03-26 21:21:40 UTC
Almost 200 pages of people arguing whether psychologically tormenting someone is right or wrong???

What a joke society has become Roll

Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#3750 - 2014-03-26 21:21:42 UTC
Bertrand Butler wrote:
For the love of Odin, stop posting you *&^%^$#E%#!!!!!11

I'm in the last page for two hours now, and before finishing the page another one pops up.

STOP TORTURING ME!! T_T I am out of RLM rifters...


best thread ever
refresh page, 5 more pages crop up.

Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3751 - 2014-03-26 21:22:15 UTC
Danalee wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
What's wrong with death threats? It happened on TS3 man, you can say anything.


Ok, be that way.

In any case either things said on TS don't matter and your point is moot OR they do matter and death threats made by shokar are bad and your point is moot.

Get it?

D.

Bear

That's a false dichotomy. You know what those are, right?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#3752 - 2014-03-26 21:22:31 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
stop posting
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: 2014.03.26 21:13
To: LUMINOUS SPIRIT,

Dude, 20 bil isk for you if you quietly stop posting.


Interesting. E1 thinks I can be quietly bought off for a mere 20 bil? Lol?


It was probably one of your own supporters, trying to bribe you to stop ruining your own case.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3753 - 2014-03-26 21:22:34 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
They need to jump on this harshly and with haste. If they sit back and mull things over for a week, they will be screwed as I see it.

Mr Epeen Cool



Seriously. The response from them so far is akin to the initial non-release of info by Malaysian officials.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#3754 - 2014-03-26 21:22:46 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Whose fault is it that he gave all his stuff away?


The greedy racists fault thats who.


Just cuz it's going to drive me insane, please get rid of the ' in your signature. It's not death "threat's" - it's death "threats".

When you see the ' - just think of the word "is". He's = he is. Threats = threats.... is? Does not work.

Like in your post here and "thats" = you mean "that is". So "that's" who.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#3755 - 2014-03-26 21:22:51 UTC
Buck Futz wrote:
And, now, having read the actual blog....did he just call Erotica 1 EVIL?

I'm quite convinced that Ripard is the intolerable sort that whines to the coach when he gets hazed by his team-members in the men's locker room.

Of course this is theoretical.
Because it would require Ripard actually setting foot in a men's locker room for something other than pilates or yoga.
You know, something that doesn't require stretchy see-through pants.


Pretty much this, Jester is such a prick, im glad is out of the CSM soon.

The Tears Must Flow
Brusanan
Free State Project
#3756 - 2014-03-26 21:23:15 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
stop posting
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: 2014.03.26 21:13
To: LUMINOUS SPIRIT,

Dude, 20 bil isk for you if you quietly stop posting.


Interesting. E1 thinks I can be quietly bought off for a mere 20 bil? Lol?

Clearly that alt of yours is getting sick of your awful shitpoasting. You should listen to him.
David Kir
Hotbirds
#3757 - 2014-03-26 21:23:50 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
David Kir wrote:


There's quite the difference between the actions and words of an angry man, and the purposeful provocation and humiliation inflicted by E1.

Anger brings out the worst of us.
You can expect an angry (or a drunk) man to act as a stupid and vile person.

What's disgusting is E1's lucidity, while doing all of this.

Don't try to blame the victim.


A "racist" victim.


Yes, a racist victim.

Again, rage brings out the worst of us; an angry person is often willing to go to whatever extent in order to harm his opponent.

That, however, does not justify E1's behaviour.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#3758 - 2014-03-26 21:24:37 UTC
Navi Annages wrote:
David Kir wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:



No, you're the one defending a vicious and hateful racist who made death threats over video game assets, not us. There is never any excuse to do what he did, least of all some 'jerk' playing with them over teamspeak. Your stance here shows the same kind of immorality and irresponsibility as the so called 'victim'.


There's quite the difference between the actions and words of an angry man, and the purposeful provocation and humiliation inflicted by E1.

Anger brings out the worst of us.
You can expect an angry (or a drunk) man to act as a stupid and vile person.

What's disgusting is E1's lucidity, while doing all of this.

Don't try to blame the victim.


A "racist" victim.

Bigoted, not racist

O tempora o mores!
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#3759 - 2014-03-26 21:24:50 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Being podded to newbie SP condition is an accepted gameplay mechanic.
All of us accept it whenever we undock.

Being provoked and humiliated, recorded and made fun of in public is not.

I just provided that as an example why CCP can't claim they didn't know about the bonus room. Nothing more.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3760 - 2014-03-26 21:25:04 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
stop posting
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: 2014.03.26 21:13
To: LUMINOUS SPIRIT,

Dude, 20 bil isk for you if you quietly stop posting.


Interesting. E1 thinks I can be quietly bought off for a mere 20 bil? Lol?

To be clear, someone offered you 20 bil to literally do nothing, and you refused? You dumb.

FFS I'll post whatever anyone wants (within the rules, of course) for 20 Bil.