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Capt Starfox
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2661 - 2014-03-26 12:56:26 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
First we have Mittani encouraging people to get some miner to commit suicide on a microphone at fanfest.

Then we have sadistic perverts abusing others over computers.


Why is this **** tolerated???


Why are you here?

Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#2662 - 2014-03-26 12:56:28 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
First we have Mittani encouraging people to get some miner to commit suicide on a microphone at fanfest.

Then we have sadistic perverts abusing others over computers.


Why is this **** tolerated???


Because no one died yet. Just wait.

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2663 - 2014-03-26 12:56:53 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
First we have Mittani encouraging people to get some miner to commit suicide on a microphone at fanfest.

Then we have sadistic perverts abusing others over computers.


Why is this **** tolerated???


Yes, you're absolutely right, the abuse, death threats and racism that Sokhar used on Ero should not be tolerated.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Salvos Rhoska
#2664 - 2014-03-26 12:57:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Remiel Pollard wrote:
That's not what I said. I said my personal policy was to remove attempts of private contact by people I don't personally know who I am involved in public debate with.

Fair enough on the correction. But regardless, you will never know the contents of that mail now which is regrettable.
And as your to personal policy, I chose to reciprocate with my own of ignoring your posts from here on.
That letter was my attempt to reconcile a personal difference with you unrelated to ontopic discussion.
You trashed it. That leaves me this option.

Please respect it as I have to respect yours, and do not address me again. I will not address you either.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2665 - 2014-03-26 12:58:01 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
LordOfDespair wrote:
First we have Mittani encouraging people to get some miner to commit suicide on a microphone at fanfest.

Then we have sadistic perverts abusing others over computers.


Why is this **** tolerated???


Yes, you're absolutely right, the abuse, death threats and racism that Sokhar used on Ero should not be tolerated.


I think i heard an apology at the end of sokhar
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2666 - 2014-03-26 12:58:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yes, you're absolutely right, the abuse, death threats and racism that Sokhar used on Ero should not be tolerated.

The abuse, death threats, wishes of disease in real life and racism of no one should be tolerated. There is no need to single out Sokhur in relation to that.

It occurs on a daily basis in local chat, private conversations and evemails.
arabella blood
Keyboard Jihad
#2667 - 2014-03-26 12:59:46 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
That's not what I said. I said my personal policy was to remove attempts of private contact by people I don't personally know who I am involved in public debate with.

Fair enough on the correction. But regardless, you will never know the contents of that mail now which is regrettable.
And as your to personal policy, I chose to reciprocate with my own of ignoring your posts from here on.
That letter was my attempt to reconcile a personal difference with you unrelated to ontopic discussion.
You trashed it. That leaves me this option.

Please respect it as I have to respect yours, and do not address me again. I will not address you either.


Then who is going to push this thread forward? ;)

Troll for hire. Cheap prices.

Salvos Rhoska
#2668 - 2014-03-26 13:00:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Scipio Artelius wrote:
---.

Nowhere have I said I would enjoy his suffering.
Nor would I.

I understand the distinction is difficult to perceive, but it is there nonetheless.
In no instance would I take enjoyment from his suffering.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2669 - 2014-03-26 13:01:00 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
That's not what I said. I said my personal policy was to remove attempts of private contact by people I don't personally know who I am involved in public debate with.

Fair enough on the correction. But regardless, you will never know the contents of that mail now which is regrettable.
And as your to personal policy, I chose to reciprocate with my own of ignoring your posts from here on.
That letter was my attempt to reconcile a personal difference with you unrelated to ontopic discussion.
You trashed it. That leaves me this option.

Please respect it as I have to respect yours, and do not address me again. I will not address you either.


I don't need to reconcile anything with you. You think we're enemies? I have no enemies. I have no friends. I'm taking an entirely neutral standpoint. If you want to be friends, come find me in game and put up a fight, show me what you've got. Earn my respect.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2670 - 2014-03-26 13:01:02 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yes, you're absolutely right, the abuse, death threats and racism that Sokhar used on Ero should not be tolerated.

The abuse, death threats, wishes of disease in real life and racism of no one should be tolerated. There is no need to single out Sokhur in relation to that.

It occurs on a daily basis in local chat, private conversations and evemails.


But as we're learned from this thread, scamming someone out of some imaginary currency and asking them to sing songs is far far worse.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#2671 - 2014-03-26 13:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Lennox
Everyone hop on the bus to keep sucking Jester's ****. You people think this is the first time the bonus room has been run? The second? Third? Fourth? These have been going on for months and have been thrown all over minerbumping.com and the EVE-O forums and no one has cared until now. (Links toward the bottom)

Lets go back to the thing that started this "outcry:" not the bonus round itself, but the article from Jester. You've made this into a much bigger deal than it should have been. You pretend to be sympathetic to the "victim" but you are only using him as a means of trying to hurt Erotica 1, whom you clearly have some sort of vendetta against.

People have made the point that this recording is now up on the internet, to the further embarrassment of the "victim." Google, "Erotica 1 bonus room soundcloud." The only reason that so many people have listened to it (or even heard about it) is solely because of Jester. You pretend to be on his side, but you are actually "worsening" (by your own definition) his so called "suffering." Congrats. You, Jester, do not give a **** about the "victim," you only care about yourself.

As someone as already pointed out, this a manufactured "crisis." Much worse things have and will happen in EVE. So please, continue to complain and try to explain to us why this bad, I'm laughing my ass off at the fact that this thread is almost 150 pages

Here's those links I promised

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=291859

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/11/a-double-life-part-1.html

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/06/hydra-headed-lies-part-4.html

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2672 - 2014-03-26 13:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Nowhere have I said I would enjoy his suffering.

What is laughter an expression of?

Also, when you wrote that you would find it hilarious to see him cry and rage at having his accounts banned, what does hilarious imply as an emotion?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2673 - 2014-03-26 13:02:37 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Nowhere have I said I would enjoy his suffering.

What is laughter an expression of?


You forgot applause.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Salvos Rhoska
#2674 - 2014-03-26 13:04:10 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
[---

I have no interest in your respect, nor do you deserve it from your reply above.

I will ignore all future correspondence from you, just as you ignored my mail.
That is predicated on your original choice to trash my mail. The result is I do not recognise your posts either.

Waste your time addressing me all you want, I will not acknowledge you in any form from this point on.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2675 - 2014-03-26 13:05:21 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Nowhere have I said I would enjoy his suffering.

What is laughter an expression of?


You forgot applause.

"Perfectly justifieable"were the exact words

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Salvos Rhoska
#2676 - 2014-03-26 13:05:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Scipio Artelius wrote:
What is laughter an expression of??

Joy.

But it is not his suffering in any case, that I would be laughing at, or enjoying.

You can try to pin this anyway you want, it will not stick, because its not there.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
LordOfDespair
Deep Dark Fantasy.
#2677 - 2014-03-26 13:06:39 UTC  |  Edited by: LordOfDespair
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Yes, you're absolutely right, the abuse, death threats and racism that Sokhar used on Ero should not be tolerated.

The abuse, death threats, wishes of disease in real life and racism of no one should be tolerated.

They occur on a daily basis in local chat, private conversations and evemails.



Get over yourself.

A single death threat or wish of disease in a chat room is not the same as a person who devotes his entire gaming time to tricking naive noobs just so he can get off on their misery.

I agree it is silly to be so upset over something like ISK, but that doesn't excuse the person whos only goal is to cause that kind of reaction in as many people as possible. Not only is it just wrong, it drives people away from the game and gives every other EvE player a bad name. It hurts the community.

You know it isn't even about the ISK, because he conversation goes long after the assets are stolen.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2678 - 2014-03-26 13:08:42 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
What is laughter an expression of??

Joy.

But it is not his suffering that I would be laughing at, or enjoying.

You can try to pin this anyway you want, it will not stick, because its not there.

It was the righteous vindication of a victim. And to hear that said ABOUT A GAME is frankly shameful.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Salvos Rhoska
#2679 - 2014-03-26 13:10:36 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
It was the righteous vindication of a victim. And to hear that said ABOUT A GAME is frankly shameful.

I do not think it is shameful to be joyful at the vindication of the abused over the abuser.
You can disagree, ofc. But that is my view.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2680 - 2014-03-26 13:12:16 UTC
LordOfDespair wrote:
Get over yourself.

So you think it was right to call out Sokhur for his reaction (because that's what my response related to)?

Sorry, but I don't see how what he did was any different to what happens on a daily basis and none of it really belongs in interaction between adults in a game.