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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1041 - 2014-03-25 22:08:36 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
So.... if its not against the EULA of a video game, its ok in real life huh?

Read you, daft cow.

Notice the phrase "its not illegal".
So yes, it is ok in real life.



I did, thats why you agreed with my reading of what you said.

"So yes, it is ok in real life"

So assault is ok in real life, thats what you are saying

You think assault isnt illegal in real life

That is what you just said

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Dave Stark
#1042 - 2014-03-25 22:08:54 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
we've gone from breaking the eula in an irrelevant spaceship game

A lot of posting from you for something irrelevant, wouldn't you agree?


sorry what?
if you'd like to make sense, that'd be great.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#1043 - 2014-03-25 22:09:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiro Ozuwara
Dave Stark wrote:
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
we've gone from breaking the eula in an irrelevant spaceship game

A lot of posting from you for something irrelevant, wouldn't you agree?


sorry what?
if you'd like to make sense, that'd be great.

You're calling the game irrelevant, and then you're posting about it all afternoon. Whats the deal with that?

Performative contradiction much?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1044 - 2014-03-25 22:09:28 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
So.... if its not against the EULA of a video game, its ok in real life huh?

Read you, daft cow.

Notice the phrase "its not illegal".
So yes, it is ok in real life.

baltec1 wrote:

Erotica 1 got someone to sing.

You want someone to kick them in the face in RL.


I wonder, which is worse...


No, I said I would applaud and laugh if someone did.
I did not say I wanted someone to do it.



I don't think you are helping the cause you wish to promote.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Salvos Rhoska
#1045 - 2014-03-25 22:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Dave Stark wrote:
i'm 100% sure that kicking some one in the face, is not legal. it's assault.

Laughing and applauding it is not illegal.

Which is what I said.

Reading is HAAARRD.

I would laugh and applaud if someone booted him in the face.
I would laugh and applaud if he is banned from the game.

Sorry if that upsets you.

Perhaps you prefer the company of those who laugh at the suffering of Sohkar and his wife in the recording?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Forum Clone 77777
Doomheim
#1046 - 2014-03-25 22:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Forum Clone 77777
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Forum Clone 77777 wrote:
Thats what Im seeing, really? This is insane.

Yes, it is insane. Just like when a company won't hire you because your facebook is filled with pictures of you getting wasted in college. What an injustice!


Having troubles differentiating between the real world and EVE are we?

Theres a difference between a real life workplace and EVE online, this gameworld we can play around in.
There is also a difference between a private teamspeak session, where Erotica 1 is being exactly no other than Erotica 1, hes not his real life self, its a sort of roleplaying without intending it to be.
I dont act in quite in real life as I do in EVE, do you?

Lets say Erotica 1 is called James in real life.
I doubt James walks around asking people to sing songs to potentially "win big" which in the case of EVE assets, no matter how you view it, is winning nothing at all.
Theres a reason why a workplace would look up your facebook, as that is James on facebook, not Erotica 1.
The workplace does not look at EVE or teamspeak, they dont care how Erotica 1 acts, unless James makes a link between his real self and Erotica 1 somehow.
Acting like a "jerk" on EVE, has no effect on the real world.
Acting like a jerk on facebook lets everyone see, that in reality, you are a jerk, and yea, workplaces usually dont like jerks.
What Erotica 1 has done can potentially have him rejected from ingame corporations, which in a way can be seen as the ingame "workplace"
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1047 - 2014-03-25 22:10:50 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
i'm 100% sure that kicking some one in the face, is not legal. it's assault.

Laughing and applauding it is not illegal.

Which is what I said.

Reading is HAAARRD.


Are you sure you arent Joe?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Dave Stark
#1048 - 2014-03-25 22:11:13 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
i'm 100% sure that kicking some one in the face, is not legal. it's assault.

Laughing and applauding it is not illegal.

Which is what I said.

Reading is HAAARRD.


so what you're telling me is that you'd take great joy in some one else's misfortune of being kicked in the face.

the very thing you're demonising erotica for?

c'mon buddy, stop being a hypocrite.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#1049 - 2014-03-25 22:11:18 UTC
Dave: This is an irrelevant spaceship game.
Dave: Pardon me while I make 30 important posts about it.

Clear enough now?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Mag's
Azn Empire
#1050 - 2014-03-25 22:11:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Xander Delacroix wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


Erotica 1 got someone to sing.

You want someone to kick them in the face in RL.


I wonder, which is worse...


Oh God, I'm about to defend Salvos Rhoska... THIS is how bad this is. Still, here goes.

Salvos did not say that he wanted someone to kick E1 in the face, just that he'd laugh and/or applaud 'if' someone did.
So you're defending him condoning RL violence?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#1051 - 2014-03-25 22:12:12 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
So.... if its not against the EULA of a video game, its ok in real life huh?

Read you, daft cow.

Notice the phrase "its not illegal".
So yes, it is ok in real life.


i'm 100% sure that kicking some one in the face, is not legal. it's assault.


He did state he would not kick, he just stated he would laugh. You are allowed to laugh, you're even encouraged to laugh irl.

Bad reading is however frowned upon, both in real life as on the internet.

Baddest poster ever
Salvos Rhoska
#1052 - 2014-03-25 22:12:52 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
---.


I am not causing anyone misfortune by laughing or applauding.

The same cannot be said of Erotica1.

Nice try though!

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Dave Stark
#1053 - 2014-03-25 22:13:11 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Dave: This is an irrelevant spaceship game.
Dave: Pardon me while I make 30 important posts about it.

Clear enough now?


other than in this game, this game is relevant nowhere.

in the context of this discussion, it's an irrelevant spaceship game that generally the world doesn't give two ***** about vs laws that everyone must follow.

context is important, you should understand it before posting.
Navi Annages
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1054 - 2014-03-25 22:13:13 UTC
Lachra wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Cool, almost to page 50. I have the greatest level of respect for this awesome game CCP lets us play. If Hilmar posted in this thread something like "Hey Ero, a lot of us think the bonus rounds are really funny, but we would prefer if you did xzy differently, maybe start a bank instead," I would totally honor his request.

So many people up in arms over something that happened awhile ago (and widely read on www.minerbumping.com in a 4 part series) because some guy named Ripard? posted something.

Instead of the "to the stakes!" talk, let's do what CCP falcon asked early on and remain civil. Thanks.


I just finished listening to the soundcloud file myself. When I say finished, I mean that I couldn't actually stomach listening to the end. Someone who can continue to play to their friends amusement whilst a man gets that upset that his wife has to beg them to stop is a special kind of desperate. When CCP outlined the design and mechanics for this game that would promote their vision for a multiplayer community, I doubt this is what they had in mind. So, in that spirit if for nothing else, and even though it is a short-term solution to a large problem, I join others here who call for Erotica1 to be publicly struck from the game. This kind of action is usually performed within a confidential basis via the petitioning/ticketing system, but as these individuals have decided to make the sport of their victims a public event, perhaps CCP should perform likewise in this unique circumstance?

**I will be putting this through as a petition to CCP in-game also, I would ask others with a like mind to do the same & maybe we can make a case.


Don't forget to to petition that the victim indicated he would cause imminent harm to the player known as Erotica1. The knife must cut both ways. Luckily the law doesn't take well to death threats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1055 - 2014-03-25 22:13:27 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Dave: This is an irrelevant spaceship game.
Dave: Pardon me while I make 30 important posts about it.

Clear enough now?


Cant speak for Dave but we are well known for our love for posting.
Winchester Steele
#1056 - 2014-03-25 22:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Winchester Steele
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Tauranon wrote:
The sum total of harm is a couple of hours of frustration, a days worth of farming (of virtual assets the player doesn't really own anyway), and if the player really, really, really wants to get away from the experience, trade the character.


You are underestimating the severity of this situation.

Extortion and blackmail are a federal felony in the US.



You are such a bad poster. Reading your posts is like watching a bad accident. It's awful, gross and makes no sense but I just can't stop rubbernecking.

I mean you are literally redefining my conception of what it means to be a sh*tlord.

Please stop posting before I get fired for laughing at your silly melodramatic nonsense.

Lawyer my ass. You are 18-19 tops, still in high school I would guess. There is no way a lawyer could be THIS dumb. On the off chance I'm wrong, may Bob help your clients.

...

Dave Stark
#1057 - 2014-03-25 22:14:27 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
---.


I am not causing anyone misfortune by laughing or applauding.

The same cannot be said of Erotica1.

Nice try though!


so why aren't you laughing at the racist who was robbed of 1bn isk of assets? clearly you should be, apparently that's what makes you happy.

you're the biggest hypocrite in this thread, and people like you are undermining any shred of credible argument being put forward by the witch-hunters.
Xander Delacroix
Doomheim
#1058 - 2014-03-25 22:14:39 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Xander Delacroix wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


Erotica 1 got someone to sing.

You want someone to kick them in the face in RL.


I wonder, which is worse...


Oh God, I'm about to defend Salvos Rhoska... THIS is how bad this is. Still, here goes.

Salvos did not say that he wanted someone to kick E1 in the face, just that he'd laugh and/or applaud 'if' someone did.
So you're defending him in condoning RL violence?


Not at all. I'm pretty sure all of the words I used were English and two syllables or less. I'd be happy to explain any that are beyond you.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1059 - 2014-03-25 22:15:22 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
---.


I am not causing anyone misfortune by laughing or applauding.

The same cannot be said of Erotica1.

Nice try though!


Normal people do not laugh and applaud when someone kicks someone else in the face.

Getting someone to sing on comms is nowhere near the same thing.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1060 - 2014-03-25 22:15:53 UTC
handige harrie wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
So.... if its not against the EULA of a video game, its ok in real life huh?

Read you, daft cow.

Notice the phrase "its not illegal".
So yes, it is ok in real life.


i'm 100% sure that kicking some one in the face, is not legal. it's assault.


He did state he would not kick, he just stated he would laugh. You are allowed to laugh, you're even encouraged to laugh irl.

Bad reading is however frowned upon, both in real life as on the internet.


He said he thought it was ok for Erotica to be kicked in the face

Im not sure how that translates to him thinking its not alright to kick someone in the face for being annoying

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann