EVE General Discussion

What they are worried about it the people will leave the game.

Basically unless there is a much bigger spread of NPC space there is no point in trying, many don't want to be in the power blocks, nor can they conceivably compete with the power blocks so they simply stay the **** in empire.

Nerf high to the group and you'll likely just end up chasing out the industrial base. Because if you think for a heartbeat that incusions and level 4s are the reason that people staying in High you are cracked. Have you ever seen the real output of the guys that have 5-6 industrial toons going? These guys build battlecruisers by the thousand, why would they want to **** up their cash flow so you creaps can shoot at them.

They don't, nor are they going to anytime soon.

First: MUCH harder consequenz for:
- bug abusing, cheating and so on (last mentioned blackhole negativ value abuse, moongo, ... the list is TO long and there are nearly no consequenz .. the corps/allys still exist, the players which have done it still fly their ships)

- limit size of corps, allys, blue standings
No reason to try 00 with 100 man corps as you know the next X000 ally with their 3*X000 blues just blobs you next night.

- increas cost of multi-sov
Keep it low for one constelation, the second will cost 10 times as much, the third again 10 times more and so on.

- you build up a POS in your time zone ... and while you sleep players from other time zones destroy it without any changs to defend it (real life you know? sleep, work, family?)
Implement some sort of "attackeble time frame" which can be set by the holders. This way they can decide "we have time to play AND DEFEND fro 18:00 to 22:00 London time, if you want to kick our a.. come at this time to play with us ".
This time frame can be changed once a week or even just once a month .... so defenders can't abuse it (yes, there are many who will try hard to find abuse posibilitys!!).

- as soon as real money comes into play: BAN the one who offer it and the one who take it!
Further: DELATE the corps, DELATE the allys, DELATE the chars! Not just ban but DELATE them for ever!
Same for BOT users. BAN the hole damn IPs, BAN every account which uses the same Credit information, BAN every account with the same e-mail, acc information (first/last name and so on).
There are ways if you realy want to @CCP!

I still can't belive, that there are intervies with some very well known 00 Ally LEADERS where they clearly say: "sure do we use bots, and yes we abused this and this and this" ... that THIS leaders and allys are still aktive and NOT anihilated by CCP :(.
-> MEGA FAIL!

As long as stuff like this is far to common -> absolut NO reason to go to low/00 sec space!

I know I replying late to this , and I could really have done with including the previous post in the thread but...

One of the primary barriers is as quoted cos its true... however.. the much larger primary barrier is to get to Null sec you have to attempt to get through several low sec systems....

Assuming you manage to get through the camp out of highsec (not likely in anything other than a blockade runner or fast frigate) then you've still got to run through several systems where if you're not blue you're dead.. just to get to a system where there's no station.

No logical resaon therefore to even want to leave highsec .. the is no risk/reward relationship .. high risk/high loss yes .. but reward no.

Also for the casual player or small group of casual players null sec is not an option if you want a pos and do anyform of research manufacturing .. if wouldn't be up for more than 24 hours before some lowlife toasted it... most likely whilst you were off line coz real life has a tendency to get in the way...

just delete local T_T (maybe allow scanships access to local - make more scanships)

OP? Been awhile since you updated this thread. Not getting the answers you wanted?

getting ganked more often while trying to rat will surely attract more high-sec people to null

Covert POS (cloak is disrupted when people enter or leave it, can anchor in anomolies)
Remove Local
Remove NPC kill reports

... and small corps / alliances can covertly inhabit a null sec system.

Anyone want to make a remix of "Badger! Badger! Badger! mushroom, mushroom ... Ah snake!" with "D-scan! D-scan! D-scan! ore rock, ore rock ... Ah SB! "?

limit the amount of mass a cyno can move. that should also be directly linked to the size of the ship producing a cyno.

example. a frigate cyno can only move cruisers or smaller.
a cruiser cyno can only move battleshipes and smaller
a battle ship can move caps and smaller
and a cap can move supercaps and titans or smaller
supercap and titans can move everything

but there should be a limit to how much mass can actually be shifted through the cyno based on the size of the ship and if its t2 or not. much like how a wormhole has a mass limit.

it would require far more planning to "hotdrop" a huge amount of caps then. couldnt just use one frigate based cyno to move 20 supercaps and a few titans in one go.

if i went to low sec to do missions thats what happens, its no longer a small group of pirates its hotdrop here comes the supercap fleet

Mass limits with cynos could be interesting - you would need to introduce some method of tuning the cyno beacon's mass capability (doing it by ship type would not work). Scripts might work. You could have (2) or (4) different scripts to tune the mass vs cyno fuel used.

Unscripted you get the standard cyno beacon length with a mass limit capable of bringing in a single wing's worth of ships (say 30 battleships, 15 caps and 5 scaps).

Use a different script to get a higher mass limit (50% higher?), but at the cost of additional cyno fuel (doubled fuel costs). With an even more expensive script that boosts the mass limit to 80% higher, but with 4x cyno fuel usage.

Or a script that makes the cyno beacon with a lower mass limit (30% less) and lower cyno fuel usage (1/2). With another script that cuts your mass limit to 50% less but only uses 1/4 the fuel.

(Adjust numbers to fit - it would definitely add a bit of logistics to moving large fleets around, just like you have to deal with for wormholes. To bring a bigger fleet, you'd have to pop more cynos. Might work - might not .)