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[Updated] How to repopulate nullsec - a question for highsec/WH players (and CCP)

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#581 - 2011-11-09 19:28:38 UTC
Ein Spiegel wrote:
Why don't I reside in Null-sec (anymore)?

Paragraphs and line breaks. Learn to love them.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#582 - 2011-11-09 19:39:36 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ein Spiegel wrote:
Why don't I reside in Null-sec (anymore)?

Paragraphs and line breaks. Learn to love them.


That was just two paragraphs with a break at the end of the first. Why is it a problem?

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Viziam
#583 - 2011-11-10 08:26:09 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ein Spiegel wrote:
Why don't I reside in Null-sec (anymore)?

Paragraphs and line breaks. Learn to love them.


That was just two paragraphs with a break at the end of the first. Why is it a problem?

because he is a goon what else to expect, they so bored out there they spam the forums

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Delirious Grib
Solaroids
#584 - 2011-11-10 09:29:43 UTC
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#585 - 2011-11-10 09:30:55 UTC
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Avila Cracko
#586 - 2011-11-10 11:05:58 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.



It would...
because small players could get some crumbles of 0.0... and now all 0.0 (and all crumbles) belongs only to big fishes...
EVEs 0.0 cant be owned by one/two/three groups of ppl... we need to see many many more names on 0.0 map.

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#587 - 2011-11-10 11:11:05 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.



It would...
because small players could get some crumbles of 0.0... and now all 0.0 (and all crumbles) belongs only to big fishes...
EVEs 0.0 cant be owned by one/two/three groups of ppl... we need to see many many more names on 0.0 map.

There is nothing stopping them.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Avila Cracko
#588 - 2011-11-10 11:14:54 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.



It would...
because small players could get some crumbles of 0.0... and now all 0.0 (and all crumbles) belongs only to big fishes...
EVEs 0.0 cant be owned by one/two/three groups of ppl... we need to see many many more names on 0.0 map.

There is nothing stopping them.


LOL... yea... right...
only few groups of ppl that own 100% of 0.0 and 90% of EVEs money and military power... and they want more...

truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Luh Windan
green fish hat bang bang
#589 - 2011-11-10 11:17:08 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.



It would...
because small players could get some crumbles of 0.0... and now all 0.0 (and all crumbles) belongs only to big fishes...
EVEs 0.0 cant be owned by one/two/three groups of ppl... we need to see many many more names on 0.0 map.

There is nothing stopping them.


LOL... yea... right...
only few groups of ppl that own 100% of 0.0 and 90% of EVEs money and military power... and they want more...


we are the 99%!!!!

*gets coat*
betoli
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#590 - 2011-11-10 11:17:42 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.



It would...
because small players could get some crumbles of 0.0... and now all 0.0 (and all crumbles) belongs only to big fishes...
EVEs 0.0 cant be owned by one/two/three groups of ppl... we need to see many many more names on 0.0 map.

There is nothing stopping them.


LOL... yea... right...
only few groups of ppl that own 100% of 0.0 and 90% of EVEs money and military power... and they want more...


#occupy nullsec. We are the 99% Big smile
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#591 - 2011-11-10 11:18:34 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
LOL... yea... right...
only few groups of ppl that own 100% of 0.0 and 90% of EVEs money and military power... and they want more...

Wow...who are these amazing people who own 100% of nullsec?

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#592 - 2011-11-10 11:36:58 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
LOL... yea... right...
only few groups of ppl that own 100% of 0.0 and 90% of EVEs money and military power... and they want more...

Wow...who are these amazing people who own 100% of nullsec?


Big allianceS not one alliance. Roll

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pussnheels
Viziam
#593 - 2011-11-10 11:38:52 UTC
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Avila Cracko wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Delirious Grib wrote:
I think increasing sov costs the more sov space you hold is a great idea (e.g. own 1 system 100 mill per month, 2 systems 400 mill, 3 systems 1200 mill, etc)

Yes this course of action would repopulate nullsec.



It would...
because small players could get some crumbles of 0.0... and now all 0.0 (and all crumbles) belongs only to big fishes...
EVEs 0.0 cant be owned by one/two/three groups of ppl... we need to see many many more names on 0.0 map.

There is nothing stopping them.


LOL... yea... right...
only few groups of ppl that own 100% of 0.0 and 90% of EVEs money and military power... and they want more...

but have no idea on how to use it

Goons Delenda Est

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#594 - 2011-11-10 12:02:03 UTC
Deucalion Ex Mortis wrote:
Why I dont go to 0.0?

I think Mittani says it best.

"Nullsec is a small and insular group of players. Most of us have been killing each other for years and changed sides so many times we can't keep track of who we're angry at. Podding happens so often that it isn't even discussed."


I dare any of these 0.0 alliance leaders to make an alt, dont tell anyone who you are, dont use your resources, play like an actual noob and try and join your own alliance. Then you will see why alot of people have given up hope in 0.0.



Nice post I like the last part.


My Opinion on the matter is this.

In its current state I don't care for null at all. Unless it is NPC null that is that can actually be fun times.


To fix this I propose.


1 Get rid of the gate guns and make all Low sec NPC null with the only difference of Emipre factions being the sov holder. This will make a lot of more fun fights in small ships all over. It will increase the number of access routes.

2 Mission's and belt NPC's ugraded accordingly. Change it so the complexes in these new empire NPC null will spawn the appropriate pirate enemy faction ships [aka angels in Minmatar space] And the Pirate regions spawn the enemy navy faction / concord NPC's.
So you can do plexes and build standings for missions at same time. Makes much more sense this way.

3 The default state of the Sov Null sec is this

It is like wormholes with the difference that all the wormholes are static. They are allays there but have mass restrictions.

Alliances can build gates that they have to construct them fuel and link with gate on the other side. Thes gates are destructible with large fleet but small gang of bombers can attack specific parts of it and disable the link until fixed.
Consumption of fuel depends on the usage tied to mass transported.

[both small and big fleets have something to do]

The Null sec folks have to pay upkeep and develop infrastructure. Multiple outposts per system will be allowed tied to some system development coeficient which does include industry as well.

Local is delayed in all of the SOV NUll just unlike WH you can upgrade to get it.

and Last point

4 More Sov space is Added make the frontiers bigger lot more folks online these days
Jenshae Chiroptera
#595 - 2011-11-10 14:28:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Niko Takahashi wrote:
Deucalion Ex Mortis wrote:
Why I dont go to 0.0?

1 Get rid of the gate guns and make all Low sec NPC null with the only difference of Emipre factions being the sov holder. This will make a lot of more fun fights in small ships all over. It will increase the number of access routes.

Maybe a modification on that?

Let NPC pirates take over low sec space.
You grind up faction with those factions.
You can join them as an NPC corp.
They then protect you if you are attacked by non-alliance members, like Concord.
When there are X number of members they get some systems to vote on invading.
Then those stations can be attacked and taken over.
The system under attack will automatically start shooting you from the gate guns and station guns.
Oh and then it will be the reverse for what ever faction previously owned it to take it back.

For everyone else, it will be like normal NPC null sec.

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Via Shivon
#596 - 2011-11-10 15:22:09 UTC
Everything in eve is arround ISK - Easy solution

High sec 25m/h max income
Low sec 75m/h max income
0.0 100+m/h income

and you will see how fast the wars will beginn

its a joke earning 100+m/h in high sec, why should a highsecpussy fight and defend for minor more money in 0.0?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#597 - 2011-11-11 03:51:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
CCP Blarrgle wrote:
We can not program better null security personalities.


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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#598 - 2011-11-21 11:14:31 UTC
IMO the best way to get more people into 0.0 space is to make it more attractive to people, not disenfranchise them with major nerfs to high sec.

Seriously, if i was having fun at a place somewhere for a while, and the owner came along and told me to move to another area of theirs that was ****, and he was poking me with a stick to go, i would simple get up and leave.

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#599 - 2011-11-21 11:22:53 UTC
Mostly it is personality and play style. If they have 10M SP and haven't move to low, null or WH then they probably never will, not matter what changes you make.
You can't change people and they are simply not interested in those play styles.

Change null sec to make it better for those already there or add the guerilla mechanics that I have listed in my sig.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

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EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#600 - 2011-11-21 11:24:29 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Mostly it is personality and play style. If they have 10M SP and haven't move to low, null or WH then they probably never will, not matter what changes you make.
You can't change people and they are simply not interested in those play styles.

Change null sec to make it better for those already there or add the guerilla mechanics that I have listed in my sig.


Covert POS
Remove local
Remove NPC kill reports.
Player owned and destructible gates
Covert gates.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.