Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please no compulsory WiS. I want to fly space ships, not dress up.

Two things. First off, you've misquoted me there. I didn't even say that first sentence, only the second paragraph. Please be careful with your quote trimming!

And secondly, okay, so you want to talk about Star Citizen. The space game getting all the headlines as its budget grows ever larger.

Yes you will be able to press a virtual button and get a virtual coffee table and virtually spin around in a fancy chair and sit in your cockpit. And yes, eventually you'll be able to walk around a station or city or whatever. Eventually being able to 'PvP' in it, although that is incredibly vague still.

None of that means it will either be 1. Fun. 2. Have any point.

While there is an immersion factor there that I like a lot, I don't get a sense there is any real depth to it. I mean, sure pay $$$ to have a space ship that the dining table drops from the ceiling if you will, I for one have better things to spend my time and money on.

And while it will have some MMO like features, it is not an MMO in the actual game play. Its entirely instanced combat, because as of yet, the world doesn't have fast enough internet and servers able to cope with such dynamic amounts of information when scaled to thousands of players.

If we're going to have spaceships to walk around - I want them to be truly functional things that add game immersion. You know, if the engines break down, you have to go and fix them. There is a game being developed just like that, where different players have roles in the ship and the whole thing has a sort of FTL feel to it, albeit 3D, but damned if I can find it again. Its graphics are relatively simple, but who cares - its the gameplay and concept that would be enjoyable.

So Star Citizen can make more money, promise yet more things. I bet at $50 million you will unlock World Peace or something. None of this makes it either finished, or a good game yet. The signs are promising, but then again many games have promised a lot and failed to deliver in the past.

When its finally done, and I mean, really done as in three-four years or so (You have to pay attention to the bit where Chris talks about the game never really being finished), then I look forward to playing it.

As for CCP and WiS, they could have carried on down the route, but none of the stuff they had on the table really stood out as being stuff most players wanted. And again, there is an issue of scale and scarcity, where some stations are empty and others have thousands of players in. Not sure how that would have worked - I'm not sure CCP did either.

By all accounts of what CCP talked about, what I think you would have got, is a very cool looking, science fiction version of PS3 Home.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MAyKZms5_YI

Oh dear.

In time, it could be more than that, but you're talking years of effort and money, while the core game went unfixed and unloved.

OK, delete part of EVE, and not enter in Captain Quarters. WIS not only can you dress, WIS is idea where you can: customize your CQ, buy some shop, bar , other places, where you can be a boss , and customize. Not only this , think much more, for this they added AURUM.






"In addition, the captain's quarters of a ship will also be a visitable location where the player can decorate and furnish their quarters to some degree". >>>>>>> https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php/Walking_in_stations?_ga=1.107276939.822913418.1385234381

Waiting............

"If we're going to have spaceships to walk around - I want them to be truly functional things that add game immersion."
About to walk around spaceship is far idea think. About WIS- I'm not say about they need to develop all of can happen in station. CCP can install for first only walk in station (what we have- CapQuarters) without connect for some players, other step, add some blocks(bar's, market's, poker club and other...), other step customize CQ, and etc..Like a usual expansion, if we say about 100% Sci-Fi, EVE far for it, but they can bring closer it. In eve little opportunities , only fly , kill, trade , and Captain qurters. But I want much more interact with players, for example take a walk with corp member in steel corridors of Caldari stations, or stay in some room and see how fly ships, or discuss important issues in Сorp Quarters with my corp members , from the social point of view it is very important, now you see only space , space , space and more again SPACE.

Try reading.

You can walk around all you like. As long as i don't have too.

itll probably be in Incarna 2.0 when they finish rebalanceing everything, introduceing modular posses, increaseing the amount of galaxies in eve (2014 perhaps), 2014 for highsec poco-loco and a whole lot of other more important stuff befor we get to show off our fashion sence in stations.. and then nex/aur will finally make sence :P

I'm still confused as to why players rebelled against a genuinely good idea, when garbage like the loot pinata got no outrage.

You're all doing it very wrong. Here's how you reply correctly.



CCP tried compulsory WiS during Incarna and it went very badly for them. I'm pretty sure they've learned their lesson and won't try to force anyone to use WiS again - or any of its features when they do arrive.

It wasn't one thing people rebelled against, it wasn't just WIS or the lack of content of the letter that was leaked, or the introduction of Aurum (and the over priced stuff for the cosmetics ). It was a combination of all these things being built up in the community for over a year or so that raised to the riots.

Players where tired of some of the broken things in the game and seeing our money being handed over for other games. (it is there right I guess but still some of the nagging things needed to be worked on)

I think, for the most part, the WIS was going to be accepted, but they didn't come out with anything. I almost fried my computer when it first loaded. I was on a older computer and had trouble just logging in sometimes at that point before the placed "the door" there.

Before all that, many people who have friendly chat channels of their own where looking forward to making bars, lounges and such of there own. When clothing was announced I remember many of my corp mates wondering if they would be able to make in game shirts and such for others, uniforms for there corp and so on.

The built it all up saying the player will have control. We didn't at that point. So the player rioted then. It really wasn't just over WiS but big hopes and dreams and the rest all coming to a head with a really disappointed player base. IF they had opened the doors and let people just pop up a small place of there own when Incarna came out (and some of the other things didn't happen) then I doubt we would have gotten to many people saying it was bad. Some like myself preferring to stay mostly ship side while others go do there stuff in game.

(though, I still think Aurem should be removed from all aspects of the game and let it be isk, or if you really want clothing something like a dollar or two, I don't ever see spending a Plex on it unless it has changed since I left )

So yes it wasn't the futures of Incarna, it was the lack of features with the hopes we had.

Perhaps, if they cannot do it maybe ask the player base to help so they don't have to design everything on there own? freeing the devs to work on all the other stuff and get the door open? I personally rather see more tactical things added to eve than WIS though.

as for loot stuff, If it is the scanning site now I haven't tried it, have no interest since the change and I had a guy at one time trained just to scan things. so, no idea if people cared or not over it.

(watch me have all this wrong, but that is how I remember it, forgive the old guy if he missed something! )

that until they allow us to train combat kills and made a fight club in a remote station in low sec, where we can bet our ships.