Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I've got a few updates to bring to you all today.

We've been making some tweaks to the numbers, moderating the changes to the far ends of the spectrum and adjusting the stats of the warp speed rigs and the warp speed T3 subsystems.

Firstly, we have done another pass on the warp speeds by class. The default advantage for T2 ships is being reduced slightly from 12.5% to 10%. We're also increasing the speeds of a few of the slower classes (freighters, titans, battlecruisers and command ships) a tad and reducing the speed advantage of the faster ships a bit as well (bringing the top end to 8au/s instead of the previous 10au/s). It's important to note that even with this extra reduction, all interceptors will see gigantic improvements to their warp speeds for virtually all warp distances after Rubicon.

Finally, we are also putting a cap on the deceleration speed that can be obtained for now. This cap is currently set to 2au/s (the declaration speed that a 6au/s warper hits by default, and twice the current hardcoded deceleration speed). This means that as ships start to travel faster than 6au/s they will start to hit diminishing returns.

This cap is being put in place for a few reasons, mainly related to the appearance of ships as they arrive. Having ships appear to blink into place as they exit warp is not ideal as it breaks immersion and prevents players on the destination grid from seeing where the new ship came from. It also significantly reduces the benefits of skilled play (alignment, vigilance) and severely weakens one of the planned natural counters to the new interceptors (smartbombing tactics). At the max deceleration ships will still appear very quickly on grid, but it will always be visible which direction they came from and there will always be one second between their arrival on grid and the completion of the warp.

The new post-Rubicon warp chart can be seen here, including the base warp speed changes and the deceleration cap.

We are also tweaking the warp speed rigs (Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizers) to give them a penalty to ship CPU output (same penalty as drone rigs) instead of their current penalty to armor amount, to even the playing field for different types of tanking.

And finally we are making a slight adjustment to the Gravitational Capacitor subsystems on the Tengu and Proteus. We are reducing their bonus to ship warp speed from 15% to 12.5%. This places a fully skilled Gravitation Capacitor T3 at 4.875au/s, or between the new warp speeds of Destroyers and Frigates. This may prove to be a bit too powerful, so we'll be watching it carefully after release and re-evaluating.

Thanks for the feedback and testing so far everyone!

So basically you are undoing the greatest bennefit the whoel change woudl have. The end of near permanent low seg smartbomb camps, yeah those that make 9 in 10 noob never ever enter again low sec after their first attempt (that usually reault sin them travelign trough rancer or amamake exaclty because they went to low sec to take a shortcut)...


Bad move.. the end of smatbombing camps had a HUGE potential to increase retention of new players and increase the ammount of real pvp players in the game.

Noobs arent exactly known for flying warp speed rigged ships, dictors or interceptors

question: if i fit 3x t1 warp rigs on a cruiser, and fitting a +15% implant, the cruiser reaches almost 6aus, will it also accelerate as fast as a frigate do? or will it just accelerate like frigs does it actually on tq?

or overall:

is the warpspeed acceleration depending on the max warpspeed or of the ship size?

So now, Covops frigates with 13.5au/s with rigs go like 21au/sec

Add in the implants and it'll take you longer to load grid than to get to the next gate.


This..... this is going to be great.

So now, Covops frigates with 13.5au/s with rigs go like 21au/sec

Add in the implants and it'll take you longer to load grid than to get to the next gate.


This..... this is going to be great.

Shield tanks are more reliant on CPU than Armor
You havn't leveled the playing field you have favoured armor over shield instead of shield over armor.
Given there are lots of useful rigs that penalise shield already I'm not sure why you shy away from armor penalty rigs.

Maybe don't bother with a penaly or maybe penalise scan res a bit.

Better catching power overall ( warp speed + lock time ).
But worse at camping gates pure lock time.

Fozzie,,don't know whether you are still reading this thread, I hope so.

Not off topic, but the new stratios and astero are not benefiting from these changes because of the fact that as there is no covert ops recloak delay bonus, and with the faster warp speed means that there is no time to turn off the cloak to be ready for the timer to be reset before the next gate.

This means waiting for 30 seconds or possibly 25 26 who knows? Before being able to break gate cloak and warp/cloak away.

With the old warp mechanics you could eat this recloaking delay time on the ships without bonus by turning off cloak after safely leaving gate, and be ready when on next gate to go again.

Now it just Massively slows down travel. Lost the whole point of faster warp. for these ships it is actually now a nerf? Sure you did not intend that.

Only safe way now is to sit on gate for 30 seconds plus session timer with a stopwatch. (Theres a timing bug as well but thats reported seperately)

Could the recloak timer be reduced to something reasonable, as curently you spend all your time waiting at gate when travelling, then whizz... wait..... totally breaks the flow.

Not so much easy travel.

Can you think on it?

Thanks