Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was thinking, with all the people suggesting stuff, how about the following?

Added role bonus to each hull, based on race.

PALADIN

Role Bonus: 100% bonus to large energy weapon damage, 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams, 70% reduction in Micro Jump Drive reactivation delay. When Bastion is active, 20% bonus to tracking range of large energy weapons (this bonus could be swapped by 20% bonus to NOS/Neut range).

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to capacitor capacity
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range (instead of 10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level)

Marauder Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Armor Repair amount per level
5% bonus to large energy turret damage per level

GOLEM

Role Bonus: 100% bonus to cruise missile and torpedo damage, 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams, 70% reduction in Micro Jump Drive reactivation delay. When Bastion is active, 20% bonus to explosion radius.

Caldari Battleship Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to cruise missile and torpedo velocity
5% bonus to cruise missile and torpedo explosion velocity per level

Marauders Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Shield Boost amount
10% bonus to effectiveness of target painters per level

KRONOS

Role Bonus: 100% bonus to large hybrid weapon damage, 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams, 70% reduction in Micro Jump Drive reactivation delay. When Bastion is active, 20% bonus to velocity factor of stasis webifier. (This bonus could be modified to +75mpbs drone bandwidth to allow heavies or sentries when bastioned)

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to large hybrid weapon damage
10% bonus to large Hybrid Turret Falloff per level (instead of 10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level)

Marauder Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Armor Repair amount per level
7.5% bonus to large hybrid weapon tracking per level

VARGUR

Role Bonus: 100% bonus to large projectile weapon damage, 100% bonus to range and velocity of tractor beams, 70% reduction in Micro Jump Drive reactivation delay. When Bastion is active, 15% bonus to large projectile weapon damage.

Minmatar Battleship Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to large projectile turret rate of fire
10% bonus to large projectile turret falloff per level

Marauder Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Shield Boost amount
7.5% bonus to large projectile turret tracking per level

New bonuses rely on Bastion to active, but only then, and are specific to each race, giving them something that encourages the use of Bastion and a unique role bonus to the ship when engaging it. New bonuses are in BOLD. Percentages could be tweaked to adjust the balance properly, either upping or lowering said values. However, they'll add damage about their pirate hulls, this is immediately countered by the immobility that Bastion forces (and the already nerfed mobility). Flexibility will be these ships name, as they Bastion up and tank, while shredding the enemy, but once mobile the ship goes back to normal, keeping the balance between T1, T2 and faction hulls.

Having these bonuses will encourage the use of Bastion and the trade-off of being static in place, and they'll go off whenever the ship goes back to mobile. This will allow the ship to have a small edge in damage projection while sitting still, but lose it, for the sake of being balanced, while moving, giving us the option to go static but more applied damage, or mobile and lesser application of damage. Seems like a fair trade to me.

EDIT: As it is right now, Marauders are all falling into a same bland category, with little differentiation between them. Adding this, would make ships get the most out of each races, while playing as each of the races, better roleplay options.

Would that not allow some hulls to pummel long range, then when things get close also allow to continue at short? I switch Gards/Wardens like that on a Rattler, which is ok for NPC, and as far as players, well, they can kill the Sentries, but guns?

Wouldn't that make you invulnerable to small things? I thought the point of lots of frigs killing a BS was the "getting under the guns" idea, and now we would have long AND short control, allowing killing of say, tackle frigs so we can GTFO.

I'm not PVP savvy, I'm actually really asking.

I have to admit that while Fozzie, Rise and Ytterbium are doing a pretty good job making ships interesting and useful (most of the time) I do lament how they're feeling more and more homogenized.

Though you have made your bias evident, I will ask the question with the predictable answer.

Why do you think that a pair of PvP addicted people should be in charge of overhauling a PvE ship, one that has been PvE since it was constructed years ago, long before they started working at CCP?

Go back through this very thread. Every single idea from pve players has demanded the removal of all drawbacks, more damage, webs dispite the fact these are long range ships, more tracking, full flights of sentries, more resists just to make omni tankz easier to fit and an utter lack of first hand testing.

Most pve drones are trying to simlly turn these ships into yet another pirate BS. The simple fact is these ship are much better at almost all pve and very vible in several pvp roles. You however want them to be able to do just a single job, incursions. Dispite the fact thatt the pirate BS are better at this job anyway.

PvE players don't care. They always push for a ship with no weaknesses in every change that impacts them. They never test said ships to any degree and get angry when their great idea gets torn apart by PvP pilots who test changes in every way possible. The problem is that just about every PvE pilot has no experience or need to experiment with fits, they just copy whatever is the top rated hull and fit on battleclinic and follow the PvE guides.

After the disaster that was the barge buffs CCP has learned to ignore these people which is why every teircide after the barges has been a great success.

The bias is strong with this one.

It is interesting how the great deceiver has ALMOST managed to turn the conversation to some bizarre claim that T1 ships are supposed to be better than some T2 ship that has a specialized role.

The Marauder's role is PvE.
Period. Full stop.
It was designed from the ground up as that.

To have a coupleof PvP fanatics get their hands on it to turn it into something it was never designed to be is beyond sad.
And then to have the comments from the goon mouthpiece are backing that insane concept would be comical, if they were not so dangerous to the integrity of the ship class, and PvE in general.