EVE General Discussion

Where was it stated a while ago? The first time I seen a statement like that from CCP was after this Somer gift was exposed. I doubt it was widely known that CCP intended the Ishukone Scorpion to be frequently used as gifts to third party sites.

Question:

If it was meant to be given as recognition, then why would CCP and Somer engage in collusion to keep it secret? Generally you "recognize" an organization publically, no? So we can all applaud then for their selfless sacrifice?

In business ethics you are expected to reject any gifts or contracts that may create even a perception of bias or conflict of interest.

Yes, but it seemed to soothe the brows of the fevered masses.

I suspect that CCP will just make the same promises , but may add that they will promise to run any more such give-a ways past the CSM first.

Yes, it's been verified by CCP Navigator. Even before that had happened, I could have told you it was true. I knew about two other situations where CCP had gifted community leaders with iScorps.

The most important thing is still not answered, how in the world is this not "favoritism".

I think there a very big gap of logic here that CCP navigator is still not addressing. Somer is not a totally independent third party, what they do outside of EVE, affects the game directly.

I don't see the problem in encouraging third party applications that don't directly give their creators in game advantages such as EFT, EVE board, Pyfa, EVEMON etc... But clearly that is not the case here. ANd using the SCL as a counter example also doesn't hold any credence, as the SCL do what they do for 0 in game profits.

Just answer this question, didn't SOMER directly or indirectly gain a lot of in game isk, was it through more traffic or direct profits, from the interference of CCP?

The clear answer here is yes and shouldn't be allowed for any reason or justification whatsoever. I still don't understand how this is still not addressed.

On another note, a quote from your "policies", "We will not authorize or otherwise sanction the use of any third party software. The End User License Agreement and Terms of Service are clear on this subject:"

taken from http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/third-party-policies/

What are you doing here is not only sactioning but encouraging the use of 3rd party software hereby breaking your own rules. Not very clear is it?

This is really a big clusterfuck.

Can we have CCP Sreegs back now?

What is happening here? No DEV has been up and awake since Saturday morning?

An EVE Online spokesman responds that “The Ishukone Scorpion was created for exactly this sort of purpose — a promo ship for giveaways and special occasions to be used on multiple levels. It has been given out several times already (including some very analogous to this one) and will be given out again in the future for contests, awards, charity-related efforts, ‘thanks’ and more.”

Additionally, despite this spacecraft’s unique skin, it is “actually worse gameplay-wise than the regular Scorpion and refines to only one Tritanium — so it is little more than a hangar ornament.” The reason it’s in-game price is so high because of the craft’s current rarity. “Yet as more are introduced I am pretty sure the market price will lower based on total supply, as we see after the first few days any ship has been added to EVE.”

Community concerns over the use of the ship as a thank-you have been “carefully noted,” and the game is “looking into creating a fuller program for those celebrating the amazing EVE community.”

We did end up giving Ishukone Ships away to SOMER's people as a "thanks" (as per the email) in a similar manner to our previous issuances of the ship. It's always been meant to be a promo item--for awards, rewards, charity-based efforts, promo items and more. The IshScorp was never meant to be limited at all or "capped" at a certain number--hence why it only refines for 1 Trit and is worse gameplay-wise than the normal Scorpion. There will be more given out in the future by the comm team and others (I will likely give out some some via social and through PR) and I am sure the price will go down--kinda like the pirate noobie frigs we gave out at events.