Player Features and Ideas Discussion

When you get past the giddiness of the range increase (which is appreciated) several things still jump out:

Kitsune still has two bonuses dedicated to cap use. And I was greatly amused that it's sig radius was lessened JUST enough to be under a Thrasher's 56m sig radius.

Keres also still has two bonuses dedicated to cap use. Yaaaawn.

The Hyena still has that 3% sig radius reduction bonus. Why??? I remember when interceptors used to have a 5% sig radius reduction bonus before the great nano nerf of 2009. It was changed to the current MWD sig penalty reduction bonus because testing on SISSI showed the sig reduction bonus wholly inadequate. Only the Hyena still has to suffer with this throwback and I'm perplexed as to why.

The Hyena will have to operate in the 20km - 30km range ala overheated point. Many normal frigates in this range will get shredded by medium weaponry. They Hyena does not get TD or SD as the sentinel and keres do. I really think you should consider giving the damn thing the Talwar/Interceptor MWD penalty reduction bonus. With only four mids you really can't shield tank the Hyena without cutting into it's ewar. It's slower then interceptors already before you consider armor tanking the thing. That should be enough of a difference between Minmatar interceptors and the Hyena.

I'd really like to see it possible to use the Hyena without mandatory links to keep it alive.

base sig bonus is better than MWD one. Because allows me to use AB that with a long range web is VEEERY good.

Hyena is great now.


Keres and kitsune have cap bonuses because their ewar uses alot of cap and their ewar is FAR more pwoerful because they can cancel ANY ship type, contrary to neuts that do not harm minmatar much and to webs that are almos tirrelevant for caldari.

Well it is Rise doing the balance pass. He is probably getting back at me for trolling him ;-)

sentinel (solo) pilot here. Increased lockrange is AWESOME and always was my main complain about the ship.

More hp/speed/cap recharge is all nice to have - i don't say no but it isn't gamechaning. Thanks for all of those tweaks!



The neut range however throws it totally out of balance. A year ago sentinel was a ship which required some piloting skill so you can fly it. One mistake and you where dead. (very similar to a slicer in this regard.. just less agile and slower). But now since you can fitt AARs on it you can just get out of scram range again and again. Piloting mistakes don't matter much anymore, its a very forgivable and safe ship. Every local tank buff helped the sentinel, since it buffed the sentinel without buffing the opponent (... neuts). Drone boats or even condors or dragoons where a huge problem for a sentinel pilot a year ago.. but they are no longer a big issue. There are only very few ships left i really don't want to engage when i undock in a sentinel. (talwar, hawk, just to mention some)

This being said, the sentinel already is a very good ship even without the buff. Please don't give it neut range it just makes it ridiculous overpowered in my opinion. If you still like to buff it give it bandwidth for another drone or something like that.

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HOWEVER if you compare it to broken mechanics like ECM you could still say its a necessary buff. If a griffin can silent your ship from 70k away why shouldn't you be able to neut at least half the range? But i always saw ECM as broken mechanic and therefore never hoped that other ewar would be adjusted to be in line with it. I rather hoped that ECM would be modified to be pilot skill based instead of chance based and therefore brought in line with the other systems.

Durign years we asked for better support for solo or pairs PVP and now you complain that we get it?

Being broken as **** is okay if it's in the name of solo/small gang?

How about a rethink on 2 ships which never get any love......

Succabus and Phantasm

Also give EW frigs the interdiction nullifier that interceptors get.

[quote=Marcel
So as long as Amarr is being balanced we shouldn't balance anything else? Sounds like a solid balance pass to me. Ship it.[/quote]

Yes if that means that once Gallente ship does not end up stupidly overpowered compared to others. Then yeah even if its not fair , we need it. For justice. And its not like keres is useless now or new keres won't be super strong after changes.

It will just not be Winlente Online this time, u mad ?

Yeah i know what you and other gallente folks expected, 5 drones 75 band drone bay, drone damage bonus and hp. And many others fancy undeserved and vastly overpowered reserved for gallente broken things. But yeah , deal with it.

Be patient - they will get it. Ytterbium mentioned it few months ago in some thread. But yeah i would love to see it as soon as possible too ;).

And lets hope those buffs will be HUGE. As those ships are not bad, they are terrible now.