Jita Park Speakers Corner

That's life on the frontier for you, wormholes are not nice places. If you want civilization there's a semblance of it in highsec.

This is a fight in which we the paying subscribing players of EVE Online will not relent in CCP, you need to free the CSM from it's NDA grip to openly discuss POS changes with you and with us.

The fact that everyone on the CSM has told you this needs to be fixed should be motivation enough.

The sad thing is that a well thought out well implemented redesign of how POS are used by players in the game would reap huge benefits for CCP in subscriptions that you are missing out on.

When I invite a new buddy to join EVE Online I can say, "Hey stay here in my POS, it's a space station where I live, work, research, build, and defend my assets in the EVE universe, and I don't have to be a member of a huge alliance to do so, heck a one man corp can have his own POS space station home. Now of course EVE is a dangerous place so defending a POS from attack is risky at best for a one man corp so join us and be a little safer."

Come on CCP do the right thing here, and do it quickly!

Power To The Players!

Agreed, the vast areas of space including wormholes are harsh, but if we look at his comparison honestly, he's not far off the mark and there are many "small" things that CCP can do to make POS management much less stressful.. for example the new hangars were not a huge step, but one that addressed a major concern of WH dwellers and in doing so, alleviated one aspect of the Current POS headaches.

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Celly Smunt

Honestly this is the most profound statement that CCP needs to wrap it's thick, cro-magnon head around ..... and needed to do it yesterday!


If the penny doesn't drop with this statement alone then truly CCP has no business running their own game any longer.

When was ccp's last update/word on this?


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Not many threads reach 140 plus pages, even taking into consideration that the Icelanders have been on vacation a lot CCP devs should be interfacing with us the players in this extremely active conversation. In this area we have no sizable faction of players or members of the CSM saying this should not be done.

CCP you give plenty lip service to the notion that you value our input as players, hell you created and host these forums, so I believe your intent to hear and respond to us is sincere on many levels. Please listen to the unified voices of your customers and prioritize what we are requesting to improve our enjoyment of your product.

This thread has defined the kind of changes that will both improve player retention for old and new players, and help attract new players to get involved in a really complex portion of the game in a simple step by step progressive manner.

If you are not going to be able to implement these type of improvements/ changes in a timely projected manner CCP at least clearly tell us and the CSM in a fashion not constrained by their NDA why you will not or technically can not . This is a priority among many many players, communicate with us clearly and swiftly please.

Respectfully I would like to know if the recoding of the POS will allow POS defenders to receive kill mails? If not why not? I would like to at least understand why these players are the only ones who do not receive this credit for combat participation.

Sitting in a POS manning guns as capital ships eat away your defensive grid and subcaps zip around you is a great introduction to how exciting PVP can be in EVE. Because it's not over in a minute or two it's possible for less experienced players to digest battle dynamics in realtime before they are blown up. Defending your POS against attackers while your corp or alliance mates organize to rush in like the calvary gives the lowly station fueler, moon miner, manufacturer some key experiences of larger scale pvp.

You're passing on intel about the attackers fleet composition to your corp mates, their specific location if you're implementing tackle against attackers, and you're gauging their ability to tank different weapon types by logistics or speed. This is intel the FC leading the people coming to defend the POS will want to have and it's a dynamic fast moving longer lasting event that spawns and rewards team play.

This is what I've been saying for quite a while!

It's painfully obvious that CCP doesn't know how to fix the old code, and it's quite possible the programmer(s) that wrote it no longer works there. Fine with me, because all that needs to be done is create new code that has documentation and use the current in game art to create the modular POS environment and borrow what they need for code from the current NPC stations/user built outposts.

Once this is done, gut the "old POS code" from the game. Faction modular POS'es could be created as well, so that we don't have a gap there like we did with drones dropping minerals.

This solves many issues and would make folks quite a bit happier.

As a new player, I've just recently done my first few POS setup and teardown. I'm sure most of my experiences have been accounted for in other threads, but I wanted to provide feedback, in the hope that it can be included in the eventual POS revamp.

Anchoring and Onlining modules is serial, and leaves the player waiting up to 2 minutes between modules.

When I'm setting up a POS, it takes a very long time to anchor and online modules because I have to wait for one module to finish anchoring/onlining before I can do the next. The same goes for offlining and unanchoring modules, although slightly faster, still requires a lot of manual work.

Suggestion: Have queues for anchoring and onlining, so modules can be placed in space as preferred, and will online in order. Have the ability to adjust the order of the queue in a way that a module must be anchored and then onlined, and/or bulk select modules to be onlined/offlined and anchored/unanchored to reduce repetitive clicks. This has been requested to the CSM since at least 2009 [reference].

POS Management Interface is confusing and not intuitive

Making production lines more intuitive by graphically showing the paths for materials to flow, maybe similar to the way planetary interaction works. Having a 1/_ be the only indication that a link has been made isn't very intuitive, and I've had to petition due a bug/glitch where hitting "Apply" after making the link would reset everything, and I had no idea what I was doing wrong.

Having a clear menu showing all of the modules and their status (online/offline/anchored/unanchored), and coordinates in a grid, and being able to manipulate them from one place rather than having to search around in space to find the module you want to manipulate would make things a lot easier. Something similar to a ship fitting screen, where you could create a POS setup, and then save the fitting would save a lot of time.

As an example, when setting up guns, it was very difficult to know how far away from the shield you were, even using the tactical overlay. I had to keep attempting to anchor the module and read the error messages until it was far enough away.

I'm sure this would be covered under a UI revamp, and the modular POS proposals made in the past.

Bump for a worthy cause even if we can't get modular poses in the near future CCP needs to know that pos functionality still needs to be on their radar.

I hear you loud and clear on this, i am currently only playing skill que online at the moment and if the expansion announcement is disappointing i will be unsubbing for a while.