Player Features and Ideas Discussion

it's an arguable point, since for the same amount of raw HP, shield doesn't have to give up speed/agility, and also has passive regen, while armor is only gaining not having it's sig rad boosted by some mods/rigs.

Oh, yea, and armor reps typically have higher cap drain to them.

Also, even CCP acknowledges that shield is overall all somewhat superior to armor tank, hence the attempted addressing of that balance by introducing AARs and that overly-cap hungry resistance shifting hardner (the latter of which has still overwhelmingly been proven to be useless in PvP despite attempts to 'balance' it).

(and from my own experience, because of it's cap need, usually useless in PvE on anything smaller then a BS)

Sigras, your first fail was not just ignoring Vyktor's fail... your second was replying to it. :P

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Seriously, though, it was rather humorous and I'm glad you pointed it out as I'd overlooked it before though, thanks for the laughs! And, seriously, the Zealot should get a range bonus instead of that cap need bonus, just give it's base cap a buff.

2 carriers in triage mode can't rep each other, because a carrier in triage mode cannot receive remote reps.

Or are you just trolling?

AAR shouldn't use capacitor like ASB. Amarr ships don't have enough capacitor to fire. How can they use active tanking. If you remove capacitor usage for AAR - it will be good solution to use active tanking for ship, that have troubles with capacitor.

Not sure if that has been mentioned yet, but this change makes pith-c shield boosters worse then dg ones, which needs to be changed.

You can't be serious!! In times when you see brutix, harbinger and others armor ships shield tanked, you want to buff shield reps even more? Everything is nowdays shield tanked and they need to change that. Local armor reps need big buff. Shield on the other hand can easily put over sized modules, not to mention how deadspace items are op in that department. Plain 10% buff would also be too much and dev gave it 15. It's too much

Michael J Caboose, please go watch the vids and get some education. Those are indeed the remote repping Carriers I was talking about. With so many factors changing like T3 boosts, Command ships and the actual boosts themselves, it remains to be seen the impact of an across the board active repping change. I take on board you've done some maths of T3 boosting etc, but have you considered the impact of combat boosters, implants and all the other stuff people fit and use to gain an edge?

This is my whole point - They are changing so many things at once it is much more likely a few ships and specific fits will get rather screwed up and out of whack in terms of balance. I agree with most of the boosting changes especially the nerf of OG T3 boosters - and it is probably true active repping needs help to make them even more of a competitive option, but one step at a time makes more sense to me. That is all I came here to say and got unnecessarily trolled for it.

As a member of Gallente militia we fairly often fly active armour repped ships probably more so than almost anywhere else in game, so I guess I could have a blindspot to that in terms of thinking it is more common, but in my experience it is still way way more common to see active armour repping ships than active shield boosting ships. It'd be interesting to hear from Amarr FW pilots as I guess they are vs minnie ships more often and might see more shield booster, but I doubt that.

Hyperions, brutixes, incursus are all fairly common in our area of lowsec - properly fit they are all very competitive in their roles and one of my serious concerns you overlook is the incursus - A large amount of FW pvp is frigate pvp, which has been at a fairly good state of balance recently (relatively).

As I said before, repping changes to the Incursus (which at one point was totally broken in terms of being overpowered with AAR) just means it potentially could throw it out of whack again - Incursus becomes the new dramiel and a frigate unbreakable by almost every other frigate returns as it is the easy latest i-win option - No thanks! But yeah you probably don't care about that.

Anyway I'm out of this thread - too many trolls to bother posting more feedback etc. I'll wait until it hits the servers before giving more feedback opinions. Cheers.

Sry to disagree with you but yes you do. We're talking here about ships and pvp situations out of fleet engagements but yes they do shield fit and rather good, so good they can beat up the same ship armor fitted twice.

Shield Brutix over Armor Brutix? -all day, ASB fit it is a pwnmobile

Shield Mega/Talos/Vigilant/Harby/Deimost (this one not only gets huge dps increase but seems it dies slower shield fitted) and known ishtar, just for the sake of some examples of armor ships already being exponentially better shield fitted and specially with links/combat boosters, far better than armor fitted all time.

If those are better shield fitted for solo small gang work it's certainly not because armor mods are too good well balanced vs shield mods or because players are all bad at fittings but rather the other way around.

The real solution is not half bad balances, take of mid slots, give badly balanced modules vs overpowered modules.
Don't tell me CCP can't recode ASBs so they now consume cap also, of course they can but they just don't want it, that simple.

They have been saying that for over a year. Yet they never say exactly who this person/team is. Perhaps it's time this as yet unnamed person communicates with the players.

Shield reps need a boost?
You must be very slow, or maybe your mommy dropped you on your head.
Where are you pvping where armor reps are more resilient than shield reps, please tell me.