Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I am sorry to disappoint you that I don't possess the ability to hug a titan every day only to bridge on a target at 5:1 odds. I R not leet enough.
Also, as this may not be applicable to you specifically, I think you understand how your generalization may not apply to "me" as individual pilot. What we do as a corp may or may not be to your liking, but we are a corp that does piracy and does it well (eg: actually making ISK from our kills / ransoms) while choosing not to roflcopter into engagements that have a high likelihood to end in failure.

What we do as individual pilots or while being away from "the gate" though, is a completely different story, and I find your generalization rather interesting as it does show how little you know about us.

We are not here to talk about this corp or that corp, though.
We are here on the boosting subject. Please take your flaming to some other thread since I have been polite to you and not held your corp choices or activities against you either.

It is the worst news!!!
I hope in Odyssey 1.2 warfare links will give bonuses not to all solar system, but to ship in current grid only!

1. It takes skill to not get caught dual boxing with links while being shot at. If you can't be bothered to dedicate time to train leadership skill and get better at pvp to counter the player who spent their time on fine tuning their skills, then you ought to be at disadvantage. It's a fair game, more effort, more reward.

2. It takes a lot of time and dedication to train for those warfare specializations. Those who made the effort and dedication should be rewarded with the advantages that it comes. It is unfair for pilots that have spent more than half year dedicated to nothing but training specialization skills to perform almost just as good as pilot who can spent less than a month to train the specialization to 4 with only 2% differences. It's a 37 day train time differences per skill, and there are 4 of them

3. Pilot who spent their time training command ship to level 5 for that extra 3% wafare bonus just had their effort wasted, because now every single command ship will perform the same as far as the warfare link goes whether they have command ship skill level 1 or 5. Another 37day training time differences.

The nerf to the warfare link strength is absolutely unfair to those who dedicated months of time in training for that extra 5% of chance to come out on top in a fight. If you are going to nerf the strength of the links, then it would only be fair to reinburse the skill points that was nerfed along with the skill. It is simply unfair to have to spend a month for additional 2% difference at links.

- For pilots that have all specialization skill to 5, they have just lost half year of game time in training for that worthless 2% differences.

- For pilots that have spent their time to command ship 5, they lost 37 day of game time in training because now everyone will do just as good as command ship level 5 pilots as far as warfare module goes.

Please consider the pilots that dedicated their time in warfare links in hope to have better chance against overcoming blobs in a small gang.

These changes are really great. I still think that high sensor strength nullified T3s will still be a bit broken, but as a first step this is really good.

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True! Give us back IP we have wasted for boosting!!!

Intersting choice to nerf boosting strengh allthough the only real nerf links received were in the loki boost department. CCP did the right thing to nerf 36 km warp disrupt range with a T2 disrupter without overheat. Now it's gonna be like around 31 I'd say. Boosts are still viable and still give you the edge.

Another very good nerf is that you can't just put your booster in a pos and be done with it. I see a lot of booster alts losing their ships soon . Need to watch mine more frequently now. Good change.

I don't believe that CCP will go that far as to put boosters on grid. The most important reason why not is simply cause CCP wants to make money (those evil evil ppl ). If boosting is only possible on grid a lot of booster alt accounts will be canceled (mine probably too).

The 2nd thing is that it's impossible to put boosters on grid everywhere. Ever thought about deadspace? Mission and FW? Not sure how you wanna sqeeze a T3 or CS in a novice, small or medium plex. They might just ignore that so most of the FW fights will be fought without any boosts but I doubt they will do so.

I believe that CCP will go the middle way. Boosts won't work in the whole system but only in a small part of it. Like 1-5 AU around the boosting ship. Maybe there'll even be a skill to improve that range. This way booster alts are still viable but need a lot more work and they are easier to scan down because you already know in what area they are. Besides, as soon as combat probes are out and the boosted party sees it the boosts will be shut off soon anyway.

The changes that allow mining ships to provide bonuses from inside POS shields for Mining Links while excluding other boosting ships is unfair. ALL ships should be forced to boost from outside the shield. It is unfair to provide a special mechanic for miners and alienate PvP related boosters.

Is it? It's been a while since I completed all leadership skills, but I remember it was a level 5 skill and it took a lot of time to train.

16-17 days is still a lot tho, with original skill it is 100% bonus after level 2, so at level 5 it's 300% bonus. After the nerf it is only 60% bonus at level 5. I would much rather have it at level 4 instead of 5 if the differences are this close.

And the prices of rorquals just dropped indefinitely. GG time to sell.

There will never be a "optimal" method for offgrid boosting, no way in hell I'll have my rorq sitting outside of a pos for 5 minutes unable to move while I'm mining, even if you weren't deploying it, it would still be completely useless as no one will want to take a 3b risk of losing their ship for boosts. They are WAY too slow in every manner. -,-

Lowsec/nullsec industry is dead enough as it is. Doing this will **** it into the ground harder than anything to date. Being able to deploy a rorq inside a pos is the only thing that actually makes low/nullsec mining even worthwhile.

If you do that, you may as well just move all the mining belts into high sec.

I'm not convinced that either the training time or the cost is really that relevant. We know from supercaps that attempts to balance things by making them expensive or difficult to get can only create a short-term scarcity. As it is, links are already basically ubiquitous and mandatory, so the benefit of any delay in adoption that might have come from the cost or training time is long gone.

In any case, you can eliminate the "cost" argument entirely by just shoving a link on a T1 BC. It's not quite as powerful as a T3 or CS, but the magnitude of the bonus still makes it mandatory.