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Tonight's fleet fight in Z9PP-H

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#401 - 2013-07-05 12:50:13 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:

It would have evolved into an interesting fight, I mean N3/PL/Test clearly got dunked pretty hard, and it was an important morale booster for CFC. So hopefully it isn't the last of it's kind.

Oh, definitely. I mean, just from what's been said here, we can all see that there were a number of levels of gambit and counter-gambit being strategized on both sides.

Would've been fun. Ah well. Next time, eh?

They really had us right where they wanted us.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Arrendis
TK Corp
#402 - 2013-07-05 12:51:41 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:

It would have evolved into an interesting fight, I mean N3/PL/Test clearly got dunked pretty hard, and it was an important morale booster for CFC. So hopefully it isn't the last of it's kind.

Oh, definitely. I mean, just from what's been said here, we can all see that there were a number of levels of gambit and counter-gambit being strategized on both sides.

Would've been fun. Ah well. Next time, eh?

They really had us right where they wanted us.


Haven't they always? Blink
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#403 - 2013-07-05 12:53:20 UTC
Aldap wrote:
I'm not a big fan of CFC or TEST, never got into all this huge fights scene, but respect where its due to CFC for this one, I watched the video, you guys really brought the heat... Sounds like CCP really messed this one up. condolences :-)

I admit, when I saw the megathrons warp in again (initially they left, but then came back with reinforcements, and more reinforcements) it was like "wait, what, they have two blobs of "slowcats", just leave it be".

But no, there were tons and tons of ragebroadcasts .... Shocked

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Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#404 - 2013-07-05 12:54:26 UTC
Koda wrote:
Its funny how Test and pets are all happy with this.. I mean, CCP just saved them all, not that they didnt got their asses kicked, but still, CCP saved most of their cap fleet and stopped a possible awesome escalation in this war!


I'd imagine TEST seeing the fountain of tears and sperge from your goon paymasters probably more than makes up for a few lost pixels - just sayin' P

Back on topic - I wonder if there is any way of making node reinforcement an automated process in response to increased load and deep TiDi?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#405 - 2013-07-05 12:55:18 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:

It would have evolved into an interesting fight, I mean N3/PL/Test clearly got dunked pretty hard, and it was an important morale booster for CFC. So hopefully it isn't the last of it's kind.

Oh, definitely. I mean, just from what's been said here, we can all see that there were a number of levels of gambit and counter-gambit being strategized on both sides.

Would've been fun. Ah well. Next time, eh?

They really had us right where they wanted us.

Haven't they always? Blink

So they keep telling us P

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Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#406 - 2013-07-05 13:00:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:

CFC were committed in several sub cap fleets, capitals were dropped to create a situation where to continue holding the field you would need to dreadnoughts.


Except we were rather clearly holding the field without dreads. There is a definite point where subcaps can no longer hold the field. TEST & Co. did not manage to bring us to that point. I would have been interesting to see them do it.

As far as I am aware there was another slowcat fleet about to bridge in. That would have pushed you fairly close to the edge of needing your own caps.

Also, people who think a CCP employee should lose his job and have a career ended because of a mistype and communication error at 11:30pm local time should probably quit eve and do the rest of the community a favour. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you.

The issue is clearly CCP quality control, not the human error of one engineer.

Uh huh. They were also about to aoe doomsday us, right?

TEST also had an extra 1000 people in Rokhs ready to bridge in as well.

Their newbies had also just reshipped into 500 blackbirds.


Don't forget the 4000 high sec pilots formed up to join the battle in badgers and retrievers.

Seriously, both parties will be propagandizing for yearsabout how this battle was already decided in favor of Brand X, if ony the servers had not gone down. What a hoot.

Just so you will know, the 30,000+ of us who were not in the battle do not give a darn except to hoot at the CFC for its rotten luck. CCP served all of us just fine.

I'd pin a medal on the guy who reset the servers. But that's just my burning envy of Goons and all the super fun super cool super bad stuff they do. They're all like Shaft. In fact, I think it might have been the Goons who arranged for the crash themselves, those crazy crazy guys. To give us all that good content they're always taking credit for.

Best day in Eve in months, actually.
Felix Shoen
Retired Drug Dogs
#407 - 2013-07-05 13:07:01 UTC
Forget for a moment about who won and who lost or who was going to lose. This battle was going to be the decisive battle for an entire nullsec region and for every person fighting it there were two or three players watching it. It started out small and escalated into an awesome brawl. But, it was no sudden spike. Numbers of ships built up over HOURS. There were times when local hit over 2300 pilots. The node held, the battle played out, and pilot numbers reduced through casualties. I call into question the incredibly poor decision to try to adjust anything at all during such a battle. It held for 7 hours. Sit down, touch nothing. The other issue, and one that will be argued over for a long time was the timing of this dumb decision. It was basically at the tipping point of the battle. The decisive moment of a decisive engagement. It couldn't have been a worse time. It was like being at a movie where the murderer is about to be named and having the power go out in the theater. You feel robbed. Nothing anyone will do will make you feel less robbed. Goons were maybe robbed of a victory. Test was maybe robbed of a heroic save. Everyone was robbed of witnessing something epic.
brutalbutneutral
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
#408 - 2013-07-05 13:13:35 UTC
Funny how everybody in this thread completely forgets this is still just a game Roll

Everybody had fun didn't they? Isn't that the point of playing games?
Akiko Sciuto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#409 - 2013-07-05 13:16:42 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
Don't forget the 4000 high sec pilots formed up to join the battle in badgers and retrievers.

Seriously, both parties will be propagandizing for yearsabout how this battle was already decided in favor of Brand X, if ony the servers had not gone down. What a hoot.

.................

Best day in Eve in months, actually.


Couldn't agree more, it's pretty funny from where I'm sitting Lol. So many tears......

CCP y u no fix lag for big fleet fights?
Gah CCP y u try fix lag for big fleet fights......
Malou Hashur
Enterprise Holdings
#410 - 2013-07-05 13:19:59 UTC
brutalbutneutral wrote:
Funny how everybody in this thread completely forgets this is still just a game Roll

Everybody had fun didn't they? Isn't that the point of playing games?


A perfect example of a comment by someone who really has no clue.

CCP Philosophy ==>>

  1. If it works, break it. If it’s broken, leave it and break something else.

  2. Ignore all Forum comments that raise issues and concerns about our "features", and bring said "features" in anyway.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#411 - 2013-07-05 13:20:15 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:

Seriously, both parties will be propagandizing for yearsabout how this battle was already decided in favor of Brand X, if ony the servers had not gone down. What a hoot.


GRRR! BRAND X?!?!?! NEVAAARRR!! BRAND X WILL FALL BEFORE TEH AUHSUM POWAR UV TEH LEEDING BRAND!!!

DETH TO BRAND X!!!
Home brew
Perkone
Caldari State
#412 - 2013-07-05 13:36:44 UTC
Starlighart wrote:
Hmmm and what are the test systems for again..... that's right to test the process and scripts into production.


Well to be fair it was a test system.....
Fenrix Mernher
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#413 - 2013-07-05 13:47:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Fenrix Mernher
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Arrendis wrote:
Fenrix Mernher wrote:

It would have evolved into an interesting fight, I mean N3/PL/Test clearly got dunked pretty hard, and it was an important morale booster for CFC. So hopefully it isn't the last of it's kind.

Oh, definitely. I mean, just from what's been said here, we can all see that there were a number of levels of gambit and counter-gambit being strategized on both sides.

Would've been fun. Ah well. Next time, eh?

They really had us right where they wanted us.

I never suggested that at all, what I have been saying is that PL/N3/Test were clearly hoping to force an escalation with CFC capitals (however blind this hope may have been). All these tears from CFC members are frankly making the eve community look pathetic, it was a good brawl and the reason Test carriers weren't just left to die was because the hopes of continual escalation must have left N3/PL/Test confident enough that they could salvage some form of victory from it.

Felix Shoen wrote:
Forget for a moment about who won and who lost or who was going to lose. This battle was going to be the decisive battle for an entire nullsec region and for every person fighting it there were two or three players watching it.



Wait CFC leadership are seriously telling you this was going to be the death blow to the defence of fountain? Or is this something you've theorised yourself?

I suspect they aren't stupid enough to believe it themselves and I hope they don't consider their line members stupid enough to believe it.
Arrendis
TK Corp
#414 - 2013-07-05 13:55:42 UTC
Fenrix Mernher wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:


They really had us right where they wanted us.

I never suggested that at all


No, it's just something of a running joke. :)

Quote:

Wait CFC leadership are seriously telling you this was going to be the death blow to the defence of fountain? Or is this something you've theorised yourself?


Personal speculation only, I'm sure.
Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#415 - 2013-07-05 14:14:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
This is why i hate CCP and his BoB friends. (N3.)
This is not the first time when this happend. I remember CCP cheat when they give to Bob, T2 BPO-s.
I remember when we catched/trapped 7 southern titan in low sec when they tried to invasion north. The node crashed same like now and the successfully ambush went to garbage. 2 days later the nodes broke again when we catched Sir Molle's titan + 4 other one.
I remember when we tried to attack north and when we jumped to enemy system all ammos missing from loaded guns of whole fleet and we missed our ammos from our cargoholds too.
I remember when we trapped in south 12 super carrier + 40 carrier the node crashed again in delve.
I remember when we trapped 70 of Atlas dreads we got black screens and the server crashed again instantly.
Always this save operations happend accidently isn't ? The engineers jus accidently push the buttons isn't ?
GTFO and dont affect the 0,0 fights and gameplaying u tard CCP.
Charlotte 'Lottie' O'Reilly
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#416 - 2013-07-05 14:32:37 UTC
Felix Shoen wrote:
This battle was going to be the decisive battle for an entire nullsec region

thbthttbtbttt not quite
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#417 - 2013-07-05 14:58:41 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
This is why i hate CCP and his BoB friends. (N3.)
This is not the first time when this happend. I remember CCP cheat when they give to Bob, T2 BPO-s.
I remember when we catched/trapped 7 southern titan in low sec when they tried to invasion north. The node crashed same like now and the successfully ambush went to garbage. 2 days later the nodes broke again when we catched Sir Molle's titan + 4 other one.
I remember when we tried to attack north and when we jumped to enemy system all ammos missing from loaded guns of whole fleet and we missed our ammos from our cargoholds too.
I remember when we trapped in south 12 super carrier + 40 carrier the node crashed again in delve.
I remember when we trapped 70 of Atlas dreads we got black screens and the server crashed again instantly.
Always this save operations happend accidently isn't ? The engineers jus accidently push the buttons isn't ?
GTFO and dont affect the 0,0 fights and gameplaying u tard CCP.



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Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#418 - 2013-07-05 15:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
Christopher AET wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:
This is why i hate CCP and his BoB friends. (N3.)
This is not the first time when this happend. I remember CCP cheat when they give to Bob, T2 BPO-s.
I remember when we catched/trapped 7 southern titan in low sec when they tried to invasion north. The node crashed same like now and the successfully ambush went to garbage. 2 days later the nodes broke again when we catched Sir Molle's titan + 4 other one.
I remember when we tried to attack north and when we jumped to enemy system all ammos missing from loaded guns of whole fleet and we missed our ammos from our cargoholds too.
I remember when we trapped in south 12 super carrier + 40 carrier the node crashed again in delve.
I remember when we trapped 70 of Atlas dreads we got black screens and the server crashed again instantly.
Always this save operations happend accidently isn't ? The engineers jus accidently push the buttons isn't ?
GTFO and dont affect the 0,0 fights and gameplaying u tard CCP.



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Just after u kido.
But i feel u cant tolerated when someone write the truth. Grow up kido.
But thx atleast i could repeatable those accidently server starts, when the bob crapital fleet was always saved by CCP.
Fenrix Mernher
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#419 - 2013-07-05 15:07:50 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
This is why i hate CCP and his BoB friends. (N3.)
This is not the first time when this happend. I remember CCP cheat when they give to Bob, T2 BPO-s.
I remember when we catched/trapped 7 southern titan in low sec when they tried to invasion north. The node crashed same like now and the successfully ambush went to garbage. 2 days later the nodes broke again when we catched Sir Molle's titan + 4 other one.
I remember when we tried to attack north and when we jumped to enemy system all ammos missing from loaded guns of whole fleet and we missed our ammos from our cargoholds too.
I remember when we trapped in south 12 super carrier + 40 carrier the node crashed again in delve.
I remember when we trapped 70 of Atlas dreads we got black screens and the server crashed again instantly.
Always this save operations happend accidently isn't ? The engineers jus accidently push the buttons isn't ?
GTFO and dont affect the 0,0 fights and gameplaying u tard CCP.


lol, just lol.

This will be a long war, server issues 2 weeks ago helped 30 goon dreads get away, last night it helped TEST carriers. With ccps servers almost guaranteed to be no better at handling 200 nerds on grid in the next few months it'll happen again and benefit someone else. Such is eve :P
Kainos Kerensky
The Forsakened Few
We Forsakened Few
#420 - 2013-07-05 15:08:34 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:

I'd pin a medal on the guy who reset the servers. But that's just my burning envy of Goons and all the super fun super cool super bad stuff they do. They're all like Shaft. In fact, I think it might have been the Goons who arranged for the crash themselves, those crazy crazy guys. To give us all that good content they're always taking credit for.

Best day in Eve in months, actually.


As much as I hate Goons, and I do, you are a f**king idiot.

CCP failed, Goons would have (sadly) won the field, TEST (sadly) was able to surive. There will be more fights and Eve goes on.

Kainos Kerensky "Prepare for teh Vandersex!"