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CCP SERVER ENGINEERS ARE IN TEST

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Zorlag
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#441 - 2013-07-04 23:44:15 UTC
Seriously CCP... What the ****? How about you stop trying to fix lag, with the employees you got you're bound to make it worse 9 times out of 10. Lag is better then your crap.

Thanks for ruining something epic.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#442 - 2013-07-04 23:44:23 UTC
GRIEV3R wrote:
In spite of all the idiots sperging on this thread, I have one honest question: Why weren't the tackled capital ships still there when we logged back in?

They were in warp disruption bubbles with agro timers. According to everything I know about logoff mechanics, they should not have moved anywhere, regardless of server crashes, characters log offs, or any amount of tinfoil.

I'm willing to accept that it was a simple mistake and there was no foul play, but only if you can give us a solid explanation for why the carriers disappeared from the field, in contradiction to well-established logoff mechanics.


Please explain CCP.


While I am not an engineer or server administrator I can give a brief overview: a live remap disconnects all players in the system and removes all ships from space similar to a downtime.

The command to remap everything other than Z9PP-H from the current server node was mis-entered. Instead of moving everything else than Z9PP-H, the command was given to move everything else than Q9PP-H. Therefore Z9PP-H (and everything else on the current node) was remapped with the fatal consequences we see now.

Every live remap of a system, and this remap is no exception, works in such a way that all players in the system are disconnected and all ships are removed from space. The usual player logoff mechanics with all associated timers are just not relevant during downtime or live remaps.

Please also note that further information is currently being compiled to give you a more detailed overview.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Hawkspur Firestarter
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#443 - 2013-07-04 23:44:27 UTC
Smoking Blunts wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
digi wrote:
I really wish you guys would get it together. It truly WAS epic and you ruined it.
We are painfully aware of this and believe me: it hurts to see such epic battles, which are not found anywhere else in the whole gaming industry, being cut off like this.

We want to give you the servers, tools and environment to create and enjoy such epic moments to its fullest extend, that is what our dream and passion is about - destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.



so why were the capitals removed while they were aggressed and bubbled?



Because node crashes have always removed aggression, just as they did for when the CFC got a dread fleet tackled. You're dumb.
Zer Res
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#444 - 2013-07-04 23:44:31 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Zer Res wrote:
any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything?


and you know they were not doing things the entire time because?

because they literally said they were fixing the server when they crashed everyone

keep up
Yuluthu
The Drunken Empire
The Bastion
#445 - 2013-07-04 23:44:32 UTC
Yornic wrote:
Yuluthu wrote:
I'm actually angry enough that I can't focus


It's okay, you need to focus your anger into something productive. Just hug yourself and think of something you can be angry at. Concentrate, and you will find your inner self, your true self. It is okay. You don't have to hate yourself, we here at TEST are here for you, for we love you.


ILU2BBY
Alavaria Fera
Imperial Shipment
#446 - 2013-07-04 23:44:34 UTC
k4rpa wrote:
No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait.

Maybe they can get the previous losses reimbursed somehow if the deaths can be blamed on the node not being remapped earlier?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Ayures
Perkone
Caldari State
#447 - 2013-07-04 23:44:36 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Scooter McCabe wrote:
Everyone needs to chill CCP had their hands full and I don't know any other game out yet that can have this level of fights. We know everyone is raring to go.... Well not TEST exactly:

Quote:
pls dont log into z9 im not doing the sota right now because youve been on for 7 hours in a row and its a us holiday go get laid or something#### SENT BY BoodaBooda to Allies @ 2013-07-04 22:37:41 EVE Time ####


TEST pilots dodging a fight and Booda hiding under his own bed from a SOTA that involves a Q&A session.



Man, I wonder who else got their Capitals saved and then gave the order to not log in? Oh yeah, CFC FC's

Audix
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#448 - 2013-07-04 23:44:36 UTC
Ayures
Perkone
Caldari State
#449 - 2013-07-04 23:44:59 UTC
Audix wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/QlCeg2s.jpg


Stop giving them the evidence!
Leontyne Gaterau
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#450 - 2013-07-04 23:45:08 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
will make sure that such mistakes won't happen again.


Yeah ok.

Danny Calamity
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#451 - 2013-07-04 23:45:09 UTC
k4rpa wrote:
No worries test pilots, your ships will be reimbursed very soon... oh wait.


What happened to TFIs and Tengufleet again?
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#452 - 2013-07-04 23:45:18 UTC
Can someone explain to us (the one who wasn't there) what happened?
Any video?
Alavaria Fera
Imperial Shipment
#453 - 2013-07-04 23:45:21 UTC
Zer Res wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Zer Res wrote:
any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything?

and you know they were not doing things the entire time because?

because they literally said they were fixing the server when they crashed everyone

keep up

Server is fixed now, no nasty ships in space shooting each other.

Problem solved, op success.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Grarr Dexx
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#454 - 2013-07-04 23:45:24 UTC
the butthurt is A+
sthymj
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#455 - 2013-07-04 23:45:27 UTC
I was there............ wish I hadnt bothered now
Zenk Faswell
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#456 - 2013-07-04 23:45:31 UTC
Come on, I thought you guys liked metagaming! Is it too much of a bummer when it doesn't happen in your favor, is that it?
Edward Pierce
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#457 - 2013-07-04 23:45:34 UTC
CCP Phantom wrote:
- destroying such battles just to influence the course of the in-game actions, however, is not what we do.

Given your developer's history in this game, that is quite a bold statement.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#458 - 2013-07-04 23:45:45 UTC
Zer Res wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Zer Res wrote:
any answer for why you waited 7 hours before doing anything?


and you know they were not doing things the entire time because?

because they literally said they were fixing the server when they crashed everyone

keep up


so there is only one fix? ever over 6 hours? cool.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

ciphus21
New Edens Moon Preservation Society
Goonswarm Federation
#459 - 2013-07-04 23:45:52 UTC
Leask wrote:
Given that this is not the first time this has happened I think that a serious investigation is mandatory.

Similar situations happening at peculiarly strategic times for Test (in both cases saving large amounts of supers that under normal circumstances would have been killed) inspires little trust in apologies that CCP has been so quick to publish.

As paying customers we deserve answers.


we need a super duper investigation lolz go cry a river so i can harvest your tears :P
Disastro
Wrecking Shots
#460 - 2013-07-04 23:45:53 UTC
Thanks ccp for helping us not finish off the Bubbled Test capitals. We didnt want those capital kills anyway. You dudes are pro. Keep doing what you are doing. Awesome job. To err is human after all....