EVE General Discussion

I've yet to be in wormhole space, but I'm looking forward to heading there. Hopefully, by the time I'm thru the curriculum in OUCH, I will be an asset rather than a burden to any corp. SP wise, I'm approaching 7 mil on this pilot, but I'm not sure the allocation of points is aligned with what you'd be looking for. PM me, and we can chat about it... i'm interested in knowing more about your corp.

I remember there was an initiative of an EVE-blogger (name eludes me, sorry!) who felt the need to reach out to women

What I thought was "Well I hope you don't come up with a vanity solution"

CCP shouldnt change the game itself , it's perfectly going in the way it should. Pilots, whether PvP, PvE care more about the game being stable, enjoyable than your gender.

The attitude of a fair few boys/men is what can be frustrating playing as a female . They really lack some perspective and 'general' manners and its quite condecending and be-littleling at times. I (try) to just live with it and go with the flow because I'm not the type to scream and shout about it but I'm not giving up my identity because the game's harsh environment lends itself more to douchebags (Was a rude awakening to realize it)

4 more 'silly' things:
* When you talk to guys personally they get a lot more mellow, vulnerable and reasonable. Its as if they dont have to compete for a moment. Same in RL really, but keeps surprising me
* The boob-slider is a guy's fashion sense.
*I can be very nice and understanding, flexible and it's appreciated. But don't cherrypick please. Territorial, vengeful, planning and annoyed by the slightest things. Yes, I know those feelings and I can assure you dont want a 50/50 game (unless you like to go *beep* insane)
*Despite knowing a few other women in-game I prefer meeting up with friends in RL. If I talk ingame to them its mostly about.....spaceships! Ofcourse some chat about RL but it isnt a nail-polish clique

WiS would have appealed to women.

Seriously.

I recall my Ex who played WoW and she was just as much into the appearance of her "toon" as she was adept at playing the actual game.

And, from my experience training women in the firearms world, if you teach them how to deal with stuff that they find scarey, they will follow your instructions TO THE LETTER. This is why female students were always better shots.


So, if there was a drive to bring women to the game, and PROPERLY guide them in PVP (yes, PVP), they might actually enjoy it.


Because if there is one thing a woman cannot stand (having trained scores of them and having been raised an only son in a "hive of daughters") , it would be the way noobs are told so little about this game and then getting OMGWTFPWNGANKED by some aspergian loser saying "Boom! Headshot! Phag GBTW loser! Ha ha!". You see, the women won't want to play that kind of game with that kind of person because they usually know better than to sink to that level. This is why they pay lower car insurance in the real world, as an example. When the guy in the Datsun B210 tries to race them, they ignore him, you see.

So I think that the basis of giving the women something they like (and the fashion engine that WiS is will appeal to a lot of them) and not letting the game continue to be a "he who is most neckbearded and least of having a life wins" will bring them to the game.

Yeah yeah I know. But the killboard! My stats! It's a sandbox! Marsha Marsha Marsha! All that other crap. Some of you guys should try viewing yourselves from the outside if you can stand it.


Sadly, a stricter policy of harassment or ways to mitigate it would also be needed because some of your neckbeards don't know how to act when a woman is present. Seriously I have heard of some horror stories from hacker/tech conventions. Pathetic. Maybe you shouldn't try to see yourself from the outside as the knowledge of knowing how pathetic you are would kill you out of sheer disgust.

Otherwise, this game is going to continue to be a raging sausage fest. And if some of you are proud of that, you might want to reconsider your sexual preference.

My wife never worries about that. Mostly because she's a really good shot with a rifle.

I play video games to get away from my wife. Fact.

The attitude is not overly different to other games....and lots of people of all genders are put off of eve because they hear some crap about how everyone is nasty all the time, no one is helpful etc etc etc

Its certainly no worse than say, Halo, with the advantage that you get to blow people out of the sky if they are idiots.

Socialising and co-operative play are probably more vital in eve than in any other game. I can happily solo my way through most games without speaking to another individual, yet in Eve, most people I know have 8-10 chat channels open, even if they run solo in their corp.

The problem is that what the media, or perhaps, individuals represent Eve as is not an entirely accurate picture.

Sure, it is cutthroat, sure, people can steal all your stuff, if you let them. Sure, they can blow your expensive ship up because they want to.....But, that does not mean that everyone (even the people who do the aforementioned stuff) in eve are not also helpful, and chatty, and funny, and smart individuals.

If you approach people in eve with a healthy dose of skepticism (As hopefully you do IRL too), then its np.

Of course there are misogynistic/ homophobic/racist comments, but in that case I choose my (ingame) friends as carefully as I choose my out of game ones

TLDR: Us eve players like our image of being nasty scary people.....this puts off a lot of people, not just women. We seem to like it that way.

Yes, all women are docile and calm, and all men are shouty and aggressive. FACT

Your wish is granted.

You now have Mintchip !

It's an issue everywhere, but so is your skin tone, hair color, and choice of body-wash. People discriminate. People judge. People speak ill of that which they don't understand or like.

Fortunately none of those things constitutes violence against anyone and if somebody does take it that far then they've already completely stepped out of EVE ONLINE - A VIDEO GAME, world.

If I were to go down to the local girls hangout (whatever that is, I won't stereotype) and bemoan the fact that most of the women were making crass jokes about men then I would be quite accurately described as being upset over something silly and natural. If there was something about that place which drew me in anyhow, then I assume my skin would thicken or that the atmosphere would change to adjust for this new-found heterogeneity.

EVE is a boys club because when it comes to women, CCP just can't seem to tap that (pun possibly intended) market.

Maybe that says more about your particular group within EVE than EVE players as a whole, because that doesn't happen with us.