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This is dumb. Now I have to buy an upgraded clone AND pay a higher cost for each med clone after I die.

Considering that I was keeping my SPs below a certain point in order to avoid even greater med clone expense, this change stinks. 50k SPs doesn't begin to cover this expense over time.

And, yes, I am aware that there was developer communication about this particular scenario. Still, the feedback is legitimate.

Suggestion: Why not give all characters whose clones SP values were pushed beyond their former medical clone limit *BECAUSE OF PATCH* the next medical clone upgrade automatically?

Pretty fantastic job guys. One thing that bothers me so far is when you use jump bridges (and probably cynos i havent checked) the camera resets its position rather than staying where you had it before like it does with gates

That's nice to know, now can we undo this terrible thing please?

You redesign the scanning window and take away the option to resize the columns of the scan results... really?

Also opening my d-scanner takes one click more which is extra :effort: :(

New graphics are cool though...

Ok, I tried it... the hacking game is fun.

The loot mechanism is a stupidly irritating clicking exercise. We told you so.

I'll skip those sites now I guess.

Thank you for all the new ore types that are now sacred throughout Hi-Sec. It is actually interesting now to see the Ore Hold filling up with something other than Veldspar.

And for the benfit of the whinners about the ship and skill changes, please see my signature line below. And thank you for the howling. It really makes for interesting reading.

To the DEVs and all their efforts to get the changes out and made known -- thank you, as there are some of us who can actually read.

The part of Scan window that lists all results should be custimizable like before, I have no use for Distance column, the numbers in ID are in most cases also useless and pre-Odyssey I had them cut from view so it all fit in small window without cutting important bits like signature name in half.

Summing up - way to hide and resize columns in scan results like before the patch.
Background colors are also too bright, it makes reading white text a lot harder than before.

Comparison picture - http://i.imgur.com/SawtPkN.jpg

And while you're at it, make the game remember horizontal bar height, the one splitting probes and results.


And please, oh, please, make probe recall button require confirmation or just move it the hell away from scan button...

First, let me say there is a lot in this expansion that I like and I’m also pleased to see that feedback given on the test server thread has been taken on board and made it into the release today.

However there are some things that I really don’t like.

The new discovery scanner should be optional. By that I mean that it shouldn’t automatically run every time I undock or jump into a system. If I want to ‘explore’ I should have the tools available to do so and I choose if they are used or not.
The graphics of the discovery scanner do not fit with the rest of the eve UI. You have a very good and well established system of brackets and a configurable overview that determines what brackets you see in space and on the overview. Why have you departed from this?

The discovery scanner results are still available as a list view which is good but the list layout and functionality is not. The previous list view had sizeable columns, a smaller font size and looked like all the other windows and lists in Eve. The new list has large fonts, columns that I cannot adjust and space is wasted with the ‘warp to’ button. The columns automatically resize if I resize the window. To see the name of an anomaly in the list I have to expand the results window until it is approximately a third the width of my screen. Not good. This is another change that goes against existing Eve UI design and is not an improvement on previous functionality.

The station undock button. Why did you move it? It was fine where it was.

My view, based on many years working in the IT Industry is that software designers and developers want to show of what they can do. ‘Hey look, I have created this new larger neon graphic that appears when a grid sweeps across the screen, much better than that old black and white list’. Well, it might be more interesting for them and look better on their CV, but it isn’t better for Eve

Very excited with Odyssey so far.

With all the UI sweetness I docked up and middle clicked on my ship totally expecting to have a radial menu with leave ship/rename ship/undock/etc. .... hint ... hint

First impressions of the expansion are positive. things seem to work as intended, they work smootly and look very good. That said the actual meat of the exploration expansions doesn't leave such a good impression.

Probing feedback: New probing took some time to get used to, but now it's natural and I do it without thinking about it. It's mostly well done and the streamlining has cut down on the pointless tedium.

Loot scatter mechanic: It's ok. Not good, not bad, not painful and not fun. Frankly I don't see the point of adding it besides being a reason to bring friends, but I can't see this being a great solution, since it isn't fun nor does it encourage group activity on the actual sites. The main functional problem I have with it is the difficulty of clicking the specific icons. Sometimes something in space obstructs the icon, sometimes it's the other scattering icons. Being unable to click all of the loot is one thing, not being able to click the ones you're interesting in because the UI is crap is quite another. Long story short, it's at best meh and you can do better.

Hacking minigame: It's just blind clicking with no thinking. Again it's not the most horrible thing in the world, but it isn't fun either, since it's so simplified. There is no indication where you're supposed to go, your options with the obstructions are extremely limited and the buffs you get are equally limited. The end result is, that you proceed mechanically through a quick clickfest, where you choose your route by random chance and all the options on that route are so limited, that no thinking is involved. The simplicity make it boring and it barely warrants to be called a minigame. You can do better. A student doing his first game can make a more interesting minigame.

Overall the new system offers a minor improvement over the old system, since it adds meat to the system. The problem is, that meat isn't something you can sink your teeth in. Currently it's just a another pretty uninteresting timesink before you get the bacon.