Issues, Workarounds & Localization

1 ) Increase the cache of remembered accounts on the launcher from 7 to alot more as I use 20+ accounts and many others do as well.

2 ) Opt out button please like the opt out button for "Walking in Stations" . Sorry im not interested in this "****** shiny" feature you added that does or accomplishes nothing.


3 ) Take some programming classes.


4 ) Failing all of the above Kill yourself in game

That depends... I was having an interesting discussion today with CCP karkur, since she was concerned about logging into the EVE Launcher and having it automatically have her logged into the forums when she switched to them. For the moment you can think of it as logging into the Forums with Chrome and expecting your other browser, Firefox say, to know that you're logged in. Such sessions aren't inter-browser compatible by default, and the same is true for the EVE Launcher.

On that note however, we did discuss adding in the option to load the Account Management for the logged in account when the user clicks the link in the browser, but we haven't nailed down exactly what links we want to have implicitly loaded in a logged in state; we don't want people to inadvertently out their market alts, troll characters and hidden spies as the result of an inadvertent click in the EVE Launcher.

Well I can't know the exact details but reverting the change is probably not just about giving back the old patcher executable.

You'd have to "de-patch" bits of EvE (easy enough) but also to revert database structure changes, move database rows back to where they used to be, undo changes to files (it's delicate, you have seen how one of the glitches was exactly apparently losing the settings) and who knows what else back end operations to revert to the previous status.

If you plan a complex system to be "transactional" and basically support "undos" then you can indeed roll back, but I assure you it's VERY time and personnel expensive to do that.

1) start the new launcher
2) type in account name or select account name from drop down
3) type in password
4) press Enter (At this point i have indicated my intention to login with the credentials provided in 2) and 3) above)

5) Click on the 'PLAY' button (and i do mean click, the enter key doesnt work)

Step 5) above is completely pointless ! as already stated the user has indicated thier intention to login at step 4)
I can see why you (CCP) probably didnt make the "PLAY" button work by pressing the Enter Key. The user would need to press Enter twice lolz. But instead the user has to move the mouse to click on the "PLAY" button.
Any UI developer can see this is not an optimal design. Making the user stop and click on a button (without key shortcut) after the user has already told you what thier intentions are is completely pointless !

Please explain what purpose this "PLAY" button serves that out-weights the inconvience of extra clicks ? is this a UI login barrier for BOTS ? or just a shiney shiney button with extra clicks thrown in for the lolz ?

As I promised then I passed it on.

Can't you guys just apply them to the character that is currently in training, wouldn't that make more sense?

CCP Atropos or any CCP employee, really.....

Still skipping this question of why do you do what is outlined below, then ?

I'm currently updating one of the opening posts with current known issues and this is one of them. I can only post in one place at a time though

Edit: regarding the SSO functionality you've asked about before: I replied to you here.

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Much appreciated the frank and concise explanation on what the problems being experienced are, how CCP are attempting to tackle these and also the transparent explanation on were this new launcher is taking us.

The admission however that it is not CCP's intention to curtail multiboxing does not really cover the issues players have regarding this new launcher, advertising aside, which I abhor by the way being utterly pointless, they have grave concerns about the actual process and the indications that the current ability to bypass the launcher may be removed.

Why is this so important a point, two reasons, simplicity being the primary, logging in multiple accounts and there are a lot of us that do has now become a very long process indeed, the fact that the Launcher does not allow 'Preparation' of the log ins for multiple accounts after which it is a simple and very fast process to open multiple clients, in my case up to 10 which can be all up and running in less than two minutes, I can assure you this is not being done currently using this new launcher, the process is so long and drawn out that by the time I get them done it's basically time to pack up and go home.

Second, back up, there have been a number of occasions during past years when for reasons unknown the old launcher would fail to work, using the 'exe' worked around this without the need to go through bug reports etc, a simple paste of a verbatim copy held on file fixed the original but until that was done I and others could still gain access to the game, and that is what is important to the players, not advertising, not fancy graphics, face book, twitter and feeds, we come to play EVE, that is what matters to us, might not fit into your view of the world but that is the bottom line for the paying customer.

Take away that facility, impede it in anyway and the result will be as we have seen, 130 plus pages of vitriolic rage posts, not because you introduced the new launcher, not because it failed to work as advertised, but simply because when it did work it just simply got in the way, was tedious to use and did not serve the players primary need, fast linear access to the clients character choice screen, if that does not convey the message clearly on were you went wrong with this one, nothing will.

Ta much for the Skill points CCP Guard, much appreciated.

I don't think he was asking you to fix it. He was asking you not to break it.