These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE Information Portal

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Dev blog: Odyssey summer expansion: Starbase iterations

First post First post
Author
Loan--Wolf
Sub Par.
#621 - 2013-05-20 05:26:50 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
xttz wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
Pos's become somewhat unsiegeable. I don't like saying that I do t like an idea, but Pos gunners is not the most massive issue in eve ATM, cause right now 2 gunners can really fk up a unprepared fleet.


I'd argue that 2 gunners absolutely should be ruining an unprepared fleet. The larger issue is that prepared fleets walk all over towers without worry, and this wasn't always the case.


Well your also talking about different ships. A bunch of dreads will mow a tower over. Now years ago this wasn't much of an issue because you would see them coming. Nowadays......

I suspect more stations going up vs towers. Seems CCP wants to get away in some part from pos's.


i would guess it depends on where you reference is pointed at

personally i was told in a deferent post that CCP wants people out off WH space with all the changes as of late im starting to believe that
Phoenix Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#622 - 2013-05-20 12:03:56 UTC
Wh space is inhospitable. It was done that way purposely. CCP did not think people would live in them. They did not realize that people actually want a place of their own. A place less filled with super capitals, cyno beacons, and local. They created a frontier and people jumped all over it. Now people have to work together and hunt.

That isn't changing, it'll expand. CCP actually screwed up when they made wormholes, but they screwed it in a good way. Well see what happens soon enough.

Yaay!!!!

CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#623 - 2013-05-20 15:36:24 UTC
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Yuki Kasumi
Some names are just stupid
#624 - 2013-05-20 15:51:06 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.


Excellent change! Good work :D
Fifth Blade
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
Jump Drive Appreciation Alliance
#625 - 2013-05-20 16:21:29 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.

Outstanding!

Bring on the big Industrial corps!
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#626 - 2013-05-20 16:35:10 UTC
Masterplan just made a Lot of people very happy

For those who don't understand the scope of that change: that is a major step towards Corpwide industrial projects
Phoenix Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#627 - 2013-05-20 16:57:42 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.


Quality improves by +1.
Quality of life standing... -9.0 Big smile

Yaay!!!!

Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers
#628 - 2013-05-20 17:02:22 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.


awesome

--

Arronicus
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#629 - 2013-05-20 17:09:15 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.


NEEDS. OWN. DEVBLOG. Ffs. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long overdue. Ty.
Hashi Lebwohl
The Graduates
The Initiative.
#630 - 2013-05-20 17:25:02 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.


Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you!

I'm pleased... you might not have noticed Big smile


Phoenix Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#631 - 2013-05-20 21:04:37 UTC
Role fix for Manufacturing.. Done.
Personal Corporate Hanger Storage.. Done.

Personal Ship Maintenance Array.. the Next immediate challenge!!!

A Transport Ship that can hold 100 to 150,000m3 (and be balanced), the Logistic's Pilots Dream). See https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3022374#post3022374 for a relevant example.

Have to put forward a good fix to a bad ship.


Two more things.. just two more...

Yaay!!!!

Aluminy
Stargazer Exploration Company
#632 - 2013-05-20 23:57:21 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.



so - with this said, can ANYONE deliver said job? or only the person that put in the job and/or directors?

not trying to add more to your plate im just tryin to understand the full scope mate -

thanks a ton! either way this is a great first step
Axhind
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#633 - 2013-05-21 12:20:48 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.



Great work. Now set a team or two to rewrite the complete thing so we can actually have full granularity and a bit better control. I know it's huge amount of work but the sooner you start on it the sooner it will be done. We don't need new shiny for an expansion or two. This is one of the things that is working really badly in eve right now and it needs fixing more than we need new shiny.
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#634 - 2013-05-21 13:52:42 UTC
Aluminy wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.



so - with this said, can ANYONE deliver said job? or only the person that put in the job and/or directors?

not trying to add more to your plate im just tryin to understand the full scope mate -

thanks a ton! either way this is a great first step


Anyone with the roles to install a corp job can still deliver any completed corp job.

Game Designer | Team Five-0

Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie
Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Zarnoo
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#635 - 2013-05-24 21:04:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarnoo
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Aluminy wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.



so - with this said, can ANYONE deliver said job? or only the person that put in the job and/or directors?

not trying to add more to your plate im just tryin to understand the full scope mate -

thanks a ton! either way this is a great first step


Anyone with the roles to install a corp job can still deliver any completed corp job.



And where does the output go ? A shared hangar, or a personal one ? A personal hangar would make pos research and manufacture a workable solution when in a corp.. Now you need to have your own pos (password protected), otherwise people could "accidentally take" your stuff..
Arronicus
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#636 - 2013-05-25 15:37:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Arronicus
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Aluminy wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.



so - with this said, can ANYONE deliver said job? or only the person that put in the job and/or directors?

not trying to add more to your plate im just tryin to understand the full scope mate -

thanks a ton! either way this is a great first step


Anyone with the roles to install a corp job can still deliver any completed corp job.


When does CCP Masterplan plan to fix this oversight?

Scenario one:
Jim is building a carrier at a corp pos.
Bob is building a battleship at a corp pos as well.
Bob is a douche. Bob cancels Jim's carrier build. Not cool, Bob.
Carrier is lost.

Scenario two, after changes:
Jim is building a carrier at a corp pos.
Bob is building a battleship at a corp pos as well.
Bob is still a douche. Bob is online the moment Jim's carrier job completes, delivers it, and now has a free carrier. Not cool, CCP masterplan.
Carrier is lost.
Zarnoo
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#637 - 2013-05-25 15:48:25 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Aluminy wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Hey guys CCP Masterplan was able to finish the change to the permissions required to cancel corporation jobs.

After Odyssey, the only people who will be able to cancel a corporation job will be the person who installed the job, and directors of the corp. Factory managers will still be able to install and manage their own jobs, but not cancel jobs installed by others.

This applies to all varieties of corporation manufacturing and research jobs, in all locations and facilities.



so - with this said, can ANYONE deliver said job? or only the person that put in the job and/or directors?

not trying to add more to your plate im just tryin to understand the full scope mate -

thanks a ton! either way this is a great first step


Anyone with the roles to install a corp job can still deliver any completed corp job.


When does CCP Masterplan plan to fix this oversight?

Scenario one:
Jim is building a carrier at a corp pos.
Bob is building a battleship at a corp pos as well.
Bob is a douche. Bob cancels Jim's carrier build. Not cool, Bob.
Carrier is lost.

Scenario two, after changes:
Jim is building a carrier at a corp pos.
Bob is building a battleship at a corp pos as well.
Bob is still a douche. Bob is online the moment Jim's carrier job completes, delivers it, and now has a free carrier. Not cool, CCP masterplan.
Carrier is lost.


Yeah, that's what I was wondering.. an extension to the personal hangars option would work here, or only allowing players to cancel their own jobs (or directors). Simples !
Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#638 - 2013-05-28 04:26:32 UTC
I guess I don't get the problem. If you can't trust the folks in your corp, then:
1. Find a better corp or boot those that are not trustworthy.
2. Don't use your corps POS to research or manufacture.

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE

ZokFotPik
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#639 - 2013-05-28 10:33:59 UTC
There is a maximum concurrent operational users limitation of 10 on a SMA. Once opened, ships have to move out of operational range (3km) for others to reship. With the new ability to access the SMA from anywhere in the shield, will people have to move outside the shield once 10 concurrent users are reached? If so, that would obviously be bad.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#640 - 2013-05-28 11:26:54 UTC
A feature I either never found or just can't find:

- how can I center my camera on the current anchorbox?