EVE General Discussion

Nah ...
The casual babies want new "content" in form of dumb NPCs to shoot at and other stuff to look at,
because feeling powerfull in a videogame makes them feel better about their crappy lives.

Don't believe me ? Next time you see somebody rage about how he got attacked from a player,
ask yourself how people can behave that way. He will insult that other guy like there's no tomorrow
and will keep demanding things he has no power of getting. Where does that attitude come from ?
Why would he believe he has the power to demand anything ? Why does he cry so much if a *player*
kills him ? A bloated ego coming from being the "hero" by doing silly missions shooting NPCs ...

... and then, when a player kills him, suddenly reality hits him like a black, steel bat.
(ingame, obviously)

That's the cancer of the industry: Feeding people easy content which makes them feel bigger,
better, more powerfull, more important, makes them feel they've accomplished something,
which is the number one drive that manipulates them into buying more of these crappy games with easy content.

The cure?

A black, steel bat.
In the face.

This is called projection.

edit: actually ... would have to seek out that specific post of yours to support that claim,
but i won't, because it's irrelevant.

You suckers lose and nobody really cares.
Get over it.

it would be good if you actually understand what do you write.

Missing the point of SOLO 101

just to explain this to the idiots in the crowd. Solo is when you go to do an activity by yourself with no other players in your immediate group. This dose not however mean that you are free from random interactions with other people when playing in a MMO.

just a side note, OP tldr. If op specifically said he wanted to play solo with no possible interaction with other players then yes he should play a different game, otherwise.

no i'm not.
i'm pointing out the two contradict each other.

why should players be forced to be less good at what they're doing, just to be social? surely being social should make you better at what you're doing, not worse? the entire fact that you have to decide between the two is a serious game flaw?

no orca? well congratulations for using an out of date example.

i agree it shouldn't always be about isk per hour, completely right. however go back to my first point, why should you sacrifice one for the other? surely they should go hand in hand.

Solstice arsehat. If more solo content is created it won't even concern you, you'll still have victims.

There does seem to be one misconception that gets overlooked much of the time:

A solo player, while not in a low/nullcorp or alliance, is still making an impact on the universe. Albeit a very small one. By running missions, mining, exploration and such, they have an impact on the market. That impact, no mater how small it may be, affects others in the game. So, just because they are not flying in a fleet, squatting a gate shooting shiny things, or operating in a corporate mining fleet doesn't mean that they are separate from the MMO part of the game. If they are ganked, then they become part of the MMO that way as well.

In every society, you have independents.

People who run a business with no other employee except themselves. Then there are the people who aren't socialites and just prefer to spend their time alone after a day of being around people.

The risk of interaction is always there for the solo player and, for the most part, the solo players accept this risk. There are the care bears who don't accept it and whine profusely, but they provide our comic relief here and there.

So the whole "solo players need to learn how to play an MMO" mindset really is an empty statement.

I prefer communal game play with a collective purpose myself, but I'm not going to force that view on the single account mission runner simply because I feel their effort is a waste since they cold be in a fleet at a gate instead. They're making their contribution, again a small one, to the MMO market environment.

Now that I've said my piece defending the solo player - here's my thoughts on more solo content:

Now, as far as solo/casual content, there's an endless supply of it. WH's, exploration, missions, mining, etc We do not need new NPC's to shoot at. At most, maybe some of the older missions replaced with missions that aren't the smae thing over and over. Missions that could not be written out step by step in missions guides. Other than that, I don't see a need for additiona;l solo content or new high sec systems in which to house it. Low sec needs love and Null mechanics still need work.

I'm a solo player, fairly new-ish (I did play for about 2 months about 4 years ago, which doesn't really counts since "OMG WTF HAPPENED SO MUCH NEW STUFF" since then)

I am super excited about the new content to be added with odyssey! The scanning changes with be an astronomical buff to my solo career *Rim shot*!

I scan, ALOT, in my casual game play (maybe 8 - 16 hrs a week), and the need for grind scanning just took a back burner to combat skills, since the new mods will allow me to tweak my scanners far better than they are now.

Is this 100% "new Content"... i guess not, but that will come when I reship from the scanning ship to the combat ship and get solo bears on the end of my rockets/charges/other munitions instead of just having to salvage behind your semi-afk Navy Raven...

Being able to move from a solo loot pirate to a solo pvp option is a BIG addition
(this assuming I can set up a T1 scan frigate to scan at a strength greater than I can now, which can only pull a battleship, battlecruiser up to 100% in any reliable amount of time. Being able to pull a Dessie or Frigate to 100% quickly opens targets that are now within my combat level, therefore, new game content options. )

As has been said, CCP gives you tools, the content YOU create is then in your hands.

also a very good and valid point.

social / antisocial.. what some seem to misunderstabnd: its a sandbox, dum dum. and there will always be the kid with hs own shovel int he one corner and wants to remain there. just let him be.

but dont think he doesnt belong in the same sandbox.

also, some people in this game do their very best every single day when they log on to make this kid feel even more lonely and separated from the rest of the bunch. those players call it "harvesting tears" ad such. but in fact, in like 99% of the time, its more of bullying. they do it not becaus they can really gain anyhting from it (i would love to see freighters get blown up and people actually looting those 800.000 m³ trit when it drops for profit. real piracy. for loot, bounty and ransom.. but those days seem to be over. now its all about epeenis KB ratings.

those players actually pretend to be l33t, but in fact they only show off their purple armor in wow... same baseheads to me.

some large entities enforce their way of playing. JF is / are a great example. nice toy, great logistics boon. but more content ? honestly, wouldnt it be more "content" when people have to band to escort a caravan of freighters to their destination rather than chaining their alts to cyno the stuff in ??

selfrighteous, condescending people everywhere.

again, look it up. I just did so I dont make an idiot out of myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour

in fact one could argue that those 23 alt mining fleets are more social by providing an abundance of materials which keeps preices down to a more "reasonable" level. they interact with other players. whats anti-social in their behavior ? they dont force others to play the way they seem right. not as others do who claim their way of playing is better, more woth or whatnot.