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Caldari Navy Leviathan in Luminaire

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Simon Louvaki
Khaldari InnoTektoniks and Analytical Solutions
#81 - 2013-01-21 19:11:02 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Simon Louvaki wrote:


I don't remember anything about the Titan having orders to warp and Doomsday Gallente Prime (I remember Heth saying he could and that he would if the Federation initiated a counter attack) but Heth did say that he would glass the Gallente on Caldari Prime if the Federation tried anything and the Titan's guns are locked onto the Gallente districts. I imagine the moment a Federation fleet warped into Luminarie close enough to effect the Titan it would carry out its threat, and I don't see how anyone could really stop it short of infiltration and sabotage.


Capsuler Suicide Blockers. As I said somewhere earlier. You could legitly as capsulers run observation of the tracking systems via passive sensors, calculate the districts it's aligned onto, and save bookmarks to warp heavily tanked BS's of the largest ship dimensions into those spots at the exact start of an attack. Those BS's/BC's would then take any fire directed at those districts to begin with. Once the Titan began to move, you would then have a trickier job since it could retarget and attempt to break through any umbrella put up.

But effectivly you create a shield over the Gallente districts by sacrificing ships to take the titans fire.
It would be messy, expensive, and difficult, and people would die as a result.
So it's a political question as to if the expense would be worth the result, and the Gallente have obviously decided it won't be worthwhile taking the risk that the Titan can DD/concentrate firepower and break through any kind of umbrella and hit the planet heavily. As well as the sheer cost in ships, and people that would occur even of you held the umbrella against it's fire. Since you can't use any kind of dodging the way most fights to reducing incoming damage, since you are aiming at putting yourself in the way of every single shot. So the usual solution of beating the Titans tracking solutions work in reverse, and you are taking the full DPS in BS hulls.


I'm sure the Titan would have support of its own too, making it an even harder job of just sitting in front of its guns.

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Jasmin Soulscream
Daeuuas.
#82 - 2013-01-21 22:41:56 UTC
Jiska Ensa wrote:
Jasmin Soulscream wrote:
While all these ideas are certainly interesting do try to remeber that live events are restriced to game mechanics and so all of these ideas your coming up with so far are pretty much impossible to do as thers no mechanic for intercepting missles ect.


/me points to post about smartbombs :)

Of course, that can go very badly very fast in high-sec. But I'm sure CCP can lower Luminaire's sec level for a day or so.


Have you ever seen Smartbombs stop a missile? No because that would be a very overpowered and broken mechanic hence my orginal point still stands
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#83 - 2013-01-21 23:25:59 UTC
Jasmin Soulscream wrote:


Have you ever seen Smartbombs stop a missile? No because that would be a very overpowered and broken mechanic hence my orginal point still stands


Actually they do, it's a standard null fleet doctrine. Just requires timing or spreading your smart bombing out so there is always one going off.

As for 'Game mechanics' restrictions. Currently there is no way for a Titan to shoot XL guns at a planet either, so if we go by that restriction, we can kill the titan at our whim because it can't lock the planet. So can't carry out it's threat anyway.

Now applying common sense, if you were roleplaying that your ships were blocking the planet from the titan, you simply lock the ships with the titan, apply a little Dev magic (maybe some immune NPC actors or something with TP's to reflect the fact you aren't trying to evade the missiles, but deliberately taking a direct hit, to bring ship sig up to take full damage), and the titan can then shoot away at the ships. If it kills enough, Devs post in Local about missiles starting to impact on the ground.
Liuni Kalthis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2013-01-22 06:00:42 UTC
If the Titan gets destroyed I'm betting those pieces break up and ruin the planet due to the armament and poisonus building material.

Leaving both sides to go "Well....alright then, that was stupid."
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#85 - 2013-02-02 14:11:06 UTC
Liuni Kalthis wrote:
If the Titan gets destroyed I'm betting those pieces break up and ruin the planet due to the armament and poisonus building material.

Leaving both sides to go "Well....alright then, that was stupid."



Shenanigans.

If that Titan gets popped hordes of salvagers in Noctis's and swarms of salvage drones will warp in from nowhere and start working on the wreck.

Cool

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Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#86 - 2013-02-05 11:27:50 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Liuni Kalthis wrote:
If the Titan gets destroyed I'm betting those pieces break up and ruin the planet due to the armament and poisonus building material.

Leaving both sides to go "Well....alright then, that was stupid."



Shenanigans.

If that Titan gets popped hordes of salvagers in Noctis's and swarms of salvage drones will warp in from nowhere and start working on the wreck.

Cool


It might prompt a rogue drone invasion that steals all the loot and wrecks and builds an army in luminaire.

Hilarity aside though, what most of you sem to forget si that there's also a lot fo caldari forces on caldari prime, if the caldari would start shooting caldari, then they'd be bombing their own people in additon to the gallente.

While i'm not saying they wouldn't do that. I am saying it would make them relucatant to carry out such a thing, potentially delaying the bombing long enough for the titan to become a non issue.

The most viable tactic however would be infiltration, a load of bunnies and a few mobile CRU should be able to take controle of strategic points on a titan.

System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread
Nyla Skin
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-02-05 11:35:28 UTC
Call Rollard wrote:

Earlier this week they had 0 FW systems, they'd lost it all.


But then again, I don't see much of a point having them in the first place..

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Aren Madigan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#88 - 2013-02-05 23:44:59 UTC
I can imagine this being turned into a massive EVE and DUST combined event... with a massive space battle, and DUSTbunnies working on the ground to try and evac/prevent the evac of the segregated Gallente, the space battle being meant primarily for that cause, but it could end in a total victory that goes beyond the expected results, or a crushing defeat.
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
#89 - 2013-04-18 21:21:59 UTC

It's brilliant this event was able to take place, I'm just kicking my self that I missed it by agreeing to work abroad for 3 months.