Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not at all. They're right where they should be. T2 logistics are probably the most balanced class in the game, both against other ships and against one another. They have plenty of counters and a fleet commander has to make a meaningful tradeoff between repair power, damage output, and utility. ECM, remote sensor dampeners, energy neutralizers, alpha, and raw dps can all neutralize a logistics squad or at the least greatly diminish its effectiveness, especially when combined with one another (i.e. ECM and dampeners).

The second utility mid slot allows the Augoror to quadruple its sensor strength, to about 56 or so with perfect skills, better than even an ECCM-fit Basilisk (51 sensor strength). For comparison, a Guardian comes in at 44. The Osprey isn't quite as resilient to ECM, since it only reaches 39 sensor strength using dual sensor backup arrays.

is it normal that the stabber has 10 times less mass than every other cruiser?

It's a typo. A zero is missing.

The Omen will be lighter than the stabber, though the stabber is still faster than most destroyers.

gotta go fast!

Also, looking good Omen, all those days in the gym space dock really paying off!

Wow, drones on the stabber now. Why not just give it a bonus to damage for its guns, would make more sense seeing as minmatar usually are weak on drones.

As for an artilleryplatform, a damage bonus would make sense.
However i think the stabber is more of an autocannon platform. In which case the Falloff bonus works like a damage bonus. It's just not as obvious.

all good, but i think that amarr and minmatar energy booster greatly overpowers the drone rep bonus of the other races and thus should have the lowest sensor strength

Fozzie,

Stabber +25m3 Dronebay and 25mbit bandwidth

Change falloff bonus from the 7.5% per level to the standard 10% per level

First off... \o/ YAY DRONES!!!

Second... I'm still of the mind that the missile launchers should be replaced with a 5th turret (plus any needed PG and CPU) In my opinion, with a 5th turret, the Stabber is able to keep up DPS wise at close range with the others of its class and doesn't seem so miserably bad at long (barrage) range. Whether the remaining slot stays intact as a high, that's kind of a toss up. It's neat but not necessary. Maybe move the slot to the mids for another shield tank mod or allowance of a small cap booster to run the cap hungry MWD a bit longer.

Cheers

Nobody else is talking about this so I will.

The Maller should have missiles. The entire hull line seems to have it except for the Maller. Vengeance -> Maller -> Sac -> Legion

There is a huge gap in hams in the cruiser lineup.

That is all.

For the stabber, I would suggest switching a high for a low. That way you can actually effectively armor tank it too (on top of shield tanking), which would be more minmatar style. How necessary is the second utility high really? On most fits it's a medium neut + a small neut (just like the previous Hurricanes. The drones are a nice buff for sure! Not complaining about any of the changes, just thinking of how to make it better, according to minmatar playstyles.