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Dev Blog: In the Navy: Changes to Navy Ships in Odyssey

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Din Chao
#81 - 2013-04-10 18:27:55 UTC
Oh well, my dreams of a turret Drake dashed again... Blink
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Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
#82 - 2013-04-10 18:29:19 UTC
Thank you very much the improvement to the Cerberus and the birth of the Navy drake Big smile

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Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2013-04-10 18:55:03 UTC
Filled gap between cruiser and battleship

Didn't fill gap between frigate and cruiser

#NavyDestroyers2013
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#84 - 2013-04-10 18:57:31 UTC
So, your great innovation for a Minmatar navy BC variant is to:


  • Resurrect the pre-nerf 'Cane (sort of)
  • Slap a hideous camo paintjob on it
  • Price it at 3x-4x what a standard issue 'Cane costs


Is that about it? Wow, color me underwhelmed.

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Lili Lu
#85 - 2013-04-10 19:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Lili Lu
Navy Drake QuestionCryEvil

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Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
#86 - 2013-04-10 19:30:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Nessa Aldeen
As much as I like the idea of Navy BCs, I must protest your logic regarding the Myrmidon. The Brutix already (as stated by others) has 3 iterations, the original, the useless Eos, and the Astarte. Now, you're adding the fourth. Another brawler ..oh dear.

The Myrmidon should be in there simply because all the other factions had their version upgraded from the current stable. The Myrmidon was iconic for a good while before you nerfed it to hell and back. Your logic sets the Gallente BC line as an orphan. Do you want to create an OLIVER TWIST?

If you do decide to change your minds, bring the Myrmidon back to its full glory - and with more buff (drones! and guns!). The Cane has got to have something more too, as is it doesn't seem on par with the rest... or maybe you have something else you're not telling us.

Another thing, is the ridiculous amount of LP for non-FW. 250k LP and 100kk is stupid. How does making FW store so ridiculously cheap at 50% less and 10kk (10 percent as opposed to standard store) make any damn sense? Farming FW is already so bloody easy these days as opposed to the grind in hi sec LP stores. All it does is make FW LP farming even more rampant than it already is. If you have to make it fair, bring it in line to a more logical level. 125k LP, 50 kk at the very least.

The new and improved line of the first Navy cruisers e.g. Augoror I really like as they've been abandoned for such a long time.

And finally my last comment, which has no bearing on the blog, for the love of EvE, please fix the Moa, Imicus and the Dominix models. These three are the godamn ugliest ships since 2004, a time when your spaceship designers were taking too much LSD and came out with these three misshapen monsters.

Overall, this blog is quite epic but I am more worried about the BS TEAR-cide than anything else
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#87 - 2013-04-10 19:44:06 UTC
I wonder what their plans for the pirate factions, for example, the Rattlesnake and so on.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#88 - 2013-04-10 19:44:48 UTC
The Navy Harby color scheme is quite sexy... but, 200 million for the old Hurricane? Cm'on. Roll
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#89 - 2013-04-10 19:55:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Krell Kroenen
Hmmm after taking a closer look at the Fleet Cane, It's not as mirrored to the old cane as I first thought given the lesser PG and cap. My error no doubt at taking the description at face value.
Stags4
Caucasian Culture Club
#90 - 2013-04-10 19:56:28 UTC
I was looking forward to a Navy Myrmidon, but it seems we will be getting another Brutix brawler? This makes sense how?
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#91 - 2013-04-10 20:08:01 UTC
This devblog is a dream come true, been asking so many times for faction BC's in the player surveys, maybe it helped Cool

Hurricane Fleet Issue: over its regular version, this ship has 8 high slots, two utility slots, slightly more mobility and fittings

I see what you did there Big smile


Making these ships easily available through the regular LP store is real treat, thanks.

And if you can touch up the navy mega just after Odyssey, don't forget the old black paint job, just asking Blink

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Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#92 - 2013-04-10 21:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Krell Kroenen
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Yea could you explain why other factions bc will be equivalent of tier2 and only Gallente have tier1 not tier2, there has be a reason ?


What are these tiers you speak of? Some relic of a bygone age lost to time?


Im used to tiers, it will take some time for me get used to the new clasification.

So is there a reason ? Blink


We went with the ships we considered to be the most "iconic" BCs for each race. There was lots of internal debate about Brutix vs Myrm but Brutix won out.


So who's side were you on in this debate eh? Team Myrm or Team Brutix?
Ginger Barbarella
#93 - 2013-04-10 21:05:04 UTC
Navy Battlecruisers! OMG, I'm about to start crying in sheer joy!!!

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Mascha Tzash
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2013-04-10 21:11:50 UTC
Lord Fudo wrote:

3. CCP will redesign the Myrim hull to be non-vertical eventually. So navy version doesnt make sense at this time.

Is there any evidence for this?


And to bring in another option for a Faction Myrm:
Make a Guristas Myrmidon; with Missiles, with Drones, with a tendency towards shield-tanking (if it has to be). Pleas do not abandon this great hull.
Athena Maldoran
Doomheim
#95 - 2013-04-10 21:42:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Athena Maldoran
Your nerfing the Stabber Fleet issue's only reason to fly it? Evil

*i'm looking forward to testing the new ships tho :) shame you didnt use the myrm as base for the new navy gallente bc Straight
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#96 - 2013-04-10 22:06:07 UTC
Two Words:

Isk Sink Big smile
CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
#97 - 2013-04-10 22:22:06 UTC
Krell Kroenen wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
Yea could you explain why other factions bc will be equivalent of tier2 and only Gallente have tier1 not tier2, there has be a reason ?


What are these tiers you speak of? Some relic of a bygone age lost to time?


Im used to tiers, it will take some time for me get used to the new clasification.

So is there a reason ? Blink


We went with the ships we considered to be the most "iconic" BCs for each race. There was lots of internal debate about Brutix vs Myrm but Brutix won out.


So who's side were you on in this debate eh? Team Myrm or Team Brutix?


I was leading team Myrm but I'm also super excited to fly the Navy Brutix. Also don't let the looks fool you, under its skin the future Eos is going to be the T2 Myrm you guys have always wanted.

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#98 - 2013-04-10 22:30:27 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Also don't let the looks fool you, under its skin the future Eos is going to be the T2 Myrm you guys have always wanted.


/orgasm.

but....What do you mean under it's skin? You're going to use the Myrm hull, right? Right? RIGHT? The sexiest ship in all of EVE is absolutely REQUIRED to have a faction/t2 version. No compromises. Make it happen.
Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#99 - 2013-04-10 22:46:07 UTC
Nessa Aldeen wrote:
- snip -

And finally my last comment, which has no bearing on the blog, for the love of EvE, please fix the Moa, Imicus and the Dominix models. These three are the godamn ugliest ships since 2004, a time when your spaceship designers were taking too much LSD and came out with these three misshapen monsters.

Overall, this blog is quite epic but I am more worried about the BS TEAR-cide than anything else


How did you forget about the Celstis??? Definitely the worst looking hull in EVE. I actually kind of like the Imicus (although I wouldn't oppose a rework) and I have grown fond of the space potato over the years. It's like the red-headed stepchild that fucks everyone up when they look away.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#100 - 2013-04-10 22:49:28 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
I was leading team Myrm but I'm also super excited to fly the Navy Brutix. Also don't let the looks fool you, under its skin the future Eos is going to be the T2 Myrm you guys have always wanted.
Until I get this, nothing is the T2 myrm I've always wanted. Cry