Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I admit that I may have exaggerated a bit with the rant (maybe trying to provoke a dev comment somehow).
Anyway, we all are entitled to have an opinion (good or bad), and I always saw the Tempest as an attack battleship, not combat. Yes, lot's of the ship attributes were increased, size included, but all those changes seemed to have a lack of direction, I honestly don't see nothing good coming out of it since we already have the maelstrom.

Anyway, I really hope that the next iteration of Tempest as an attack battleship is better than this one.
Let's see tomorrow how it goes.

Hello CCP,

I hope you are reading this. While I am delighted to learn you have decided to refresh the battleships I was dissapointed to learn about the typhoon changes. Specifically to the drone bay & bandwidth.

Currently I run with 5 sentries & I need space for 5 light drones. With the proposed changes I will no longer be able to effectively counter frigate sized ships or assist in fleets to that effect. Furthremore, this means I can at most have 3 sentries & 5 light drones, a large nerf to my dps. While an extra cruise missle launcher is nice to have, the massive nerf to the drone bay & bandwidth is not an even tradeoff. I've even gone so far as to purchase a typhoon fleet issue for the extra drone bay so I can field heavy armor repair drones as well. The ship is great for pve as it stands, just switch the projectile bonus out for the missle one & leave it at that.

While I understand the give & take scenario of balancing, I think your going too far with the drone changes. You publicly aknowledge that the typhoon requires alot of skills to use with little to no real reward on one hand, yet with the other you diminish those same qualities. Removing the projectile bonus is fine, as projectiles are used on the other minmatar battleships. But one of the biggest selling points of the typhoon has always been the drone bay. I trained Heavy, sentries, armor, light & medium all for the singular purpose of using it with that ship. It's a huge loss, one that is difficult to understand. Would you appreciate it if I offered you something & you spent months fitting it to your personal liking only to have it's nature so drastically changed? It does not promote client / vendor confidence in your product.

I hope you reconcider the drone bay changes to allow players to continue using the ship & applying the skills learned, concidering we planned our skill queue & payed for membership to fly the ship as is. Please do not radically change the nature of the ship, I see the other battleships taking slight losses here & there. If I wanted a raven I would have trained for one.

I've got a TP on mine.

WOOOOHOOOO attack Tempest!

Minmatar ships are made for skirmish warfare, hit'n run, not brawling.

The tempest has both low tank and low dps: at least give it speed, agility and low sig.

It was indecisive.
It was a combat battleship that tried to be a attack battleship. Or the other way round. "The new Tempest is going to be a combat battleship, armor/projectile brawler in the tradition of the Rupture" - that could have worked. Just as "the new-new tempest is going to be a second attack battleship for the Matari" can, and hopefully will, work.


The proposed first setup removes too many attack-features to simply ignore it, and adds too little to earn its combat badge. Which leaves one smack in the middle, with a ship of complete polished mediocre, lacking even a single edge to build your ship around. (My opinion. It may have been just exactly what you were looking for).

Utility is awesome, if you have something to add utility to. It has often been a problem over the years with Minmatar ship design that at the end of declaring all the utility functions and slots, there was no ship left to carry the utility into battle with.

Combine that with the fact that a lot of former main utility mods were changed so they would barely work unless fitted on a hull specifically designed for it, and the pvp combat value of a utility platform without a semi-functional ship beneath it drops to the floor like a wet towel.


So, I have high hopes for the coming Attack Tempest if it stays true to its core, earning the label not only by declaration, but by stats. Also having the T1 hull as attack, leaves the faction version the spot of said armor brawler, which is closer to how it is already used (and isn't infringing on Mach territory).


Also, from what I read in the meantime, the new Typhoon is appearently very fast enabling it to really get into weapon range; which was my main concern from just looking at the numbers. I'd still like to have the full flight of heavies back (with a small flight of smalls on top, noone will notice, please :D ).

Hmm. Looking forward to see the next iteration of changes. Will be funny to see the whine threads that result from minmatar having two attack BS. (Because you KNOW they will eventually come...)

One man's buff is another mans nerf. So far increasing sig size is a buff in your opinion? Sad fact remains that racial differences are being destroyed in an attempt to homogenized EVE and dumb it down. They want to increase the variety of ships flown, no guys you are making it even more focused into Alphafleet doctrine ships ... not a surprise considering who is spearheading this drive to de-characterize the game races.

Well f*** those people.


We can't have the most frail-looking ship in the game as a combat platform.

We can't have any of the two most infamous jacks of all trades as dull brawlers.

Tempest recieved a very small boost to cap/s: +0.08, this change didnt make into the "spreadsheet"