Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So you took the phoon down a dark alley, shot it in the back of the head 3 times and pissed on the body. Oh well. At least the new geddon looks interesting.

There's a good reason you don't see Ravens in pvp. There's a good reason the cavalry Raven doesn't exist anymore (and hasn't for years and years and years). Unless you make it possible to apply around 65-80% of torp dps to a cruiser moving around 400-500 m/s, torp battleships will not happen.

Let the phoon be the odd man out with the dual weapon bonus, like the scorp is the odd man out with the ecm bonus. Or give it a web range bonus if you insist on the ******** notion of making it a torp boat.

Your redesigned phoon is worse in every way compared to the current phoon.

Edit: Just to hammer the point home. The ONLY ships that are "effective" torp boats are bombers, and they work because they have so many OTHER things going for them, namely: bombs, covops cloak, covops cyno, no sensor recal delay, frigate hull.

Looks good.

The missile rebalance is going to be critical in judging this one.

I will say it would have been interesting to give the Typhoon the split weapons system bonus that we see elsewhere (10% damage to projectile damage AND 10% damage to missile damage) with all other changes remaining more or less intact.

Hear, hear! To me the 'phoon was something to aspire to, whereas this new raven is well a raven... Maybe the only change it needed was to make the 'phoon the 'tier 3 battleship' to refelect the fact that it required a substantial amount of time to master?

My ongoing fear is that soon, race will be irrelevant and instead of splitting skills like Destroyer and Battlecruiser, you may as well merge the racial ships into a common skill!

You Failed.

The attack ship should be a projectile boat, or isn't the projectiles the 1st weapon of choice for Minmatar?
I understand we now have the option for missiles in a few boats, but projectiles still comes first.
At least make the Republic Fleet Tempest as an attack ship. This makes no sense.

Am liking the changes to the typhoon with the exception of the drone bay. Why was it dropped to 100 from 125?

Sorry but the HUGE signature increase in the tempest is not justified. It is NOT a huge battleship it shoudl not have same size as maelstrom!

That's the point though really. The current phoon, with the "disadvantage" of a split weapons system is PERFECTLY viable. Not everywhere, and not for all things, but it has a number of niche roles. It is unique, perhaps because it is the only ship with a split weapons system that works well.

CCP is taking that functional, unique ship away from us, and giving us a ******* armor Raven.

Eve needs FEWER Ravens, not MORE useless ravens. Don't fix something if it isn't broken.

I don’t like sig radius increase on phoon and pest, small sig is minamtar race feature, reducing that difference makes them less distinct when compared to other races.

More importantly that sig radius in some situation had significant tanking benefits and is likely have negative consequences when it comes to dealing with blaping dreds and bombers. While I'm fine with making bombers more powerful last thing we need in EVE is more powerful capitals, so perhaps you should reconsider adjusting sig radius downwards for all battleships, and to compensate also decrease explosion radius of bombs.